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Alex had been mak<strong>in</strong>g it is to focus on whether the sense of<br />

anonymous versus encrypted that is important from your<br />

perspective is that additional <strong>in</strong>formation flow<strong>in</strong>g or the<br />

walk back possibility.<br />

DR. MURRAY: We need to -- it is obvious to me<br />

that we need to be crystal clear <strong>in</strong> our report that we make<br />

these dist<strong>in</strong>ctions clear and why we choose whatever we<br />

choose <strong>in</strong> the report to adopt one particular way of<br />

constru<strong>in</strong>g it for policy purposes and that is really what<br />

<strong>in</strong> the end we are talk<strong>in</strong>g about.<br />

This is be<strong>in</strong>g -- this is very helpful.<br />

Zeke was on the list. I do not know -- is that<br />

what you wanted to say, Zeke?<br />

DR. EMANUEL: All the questions were asked.<br />

DR. MURRAY: Okay. We are com<strong>in</strong>g up -- Carol?<br />

DR. GREIDER: I just want to make one quick<br />

po<strong>in</strong>t aga<strong>in</strong> gett<strong>in</strong>g back to the issue that we were us<strong>in</strong>g<br />

the term "used <strong>in</strong> an anonymous fashion" and reiterate that<br />

I th<strong>in</strong>k that that is a useful term because I th<strong>in</strong>k that<br />

what we were just hear<strong>in</strong>g we would def<strong>in</strong>e that as used <strong>in</strong><br />

an anonymous manner. If you use the term "anonymized" that<br />

to me is more confus<strong>in</strong>g because there are some people us<strong>in</strong>g<br />

the exact same tissue <strong>in</strong> one way and some other people<br />

us<strong>in</strong>g the exact same tissue <strong>in</strong> another way and I th<strong>in</strong>k that

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