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for two to two-and-a-half hours but we will do our best.<br />

Zeke, did you want to put that up?<br />

DR. EMANUEL: Yes.<br />

DR. MURRAY: Yes. Why don't we put that up.<br />

Thank you.<br />

While Zeke is -- right.<br />

(Slide.)<br />

This will be helpful all through our<br />

conversations this morn<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

By research conducted <strong>in</strong> an anonymous manner<br />

what we mean is this: One problem we had was many of these<br />

tissue collections for a variety of reasons would be<br />

<strong>in</strong>appropriate to strip identifiers from the tissue held say<br />

by the pathology lab at the teach<strong>in</strong>g medical <strong>in</strong>stitution<br />

so, therefore, did we have to th<strong>in</strong>k about those tissue<br />

collections as identifiable. Well, clearly <strong>in</strong> the form <strong>in</strong><br />

which they are held by the pathology laboratory they are<br />

identifiable and need to be identifiable.<br />

What will that mean <strong>in</strong> terms of any research<br />

that might be done with some tissue collections? Well, it<br />

struck us after a considerable amount of conversation that<br />

the most important -- that it made more sense to th<strong>in</strong>k<br />

about anonymity <strong>in</strong> the context of the particular use of the<br />

tissue.

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