Cecil A. Partee Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

Cecil A. Partee Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield Cecil A. Partee Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

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"I remember reading about the Greeks and the Phoenicians and all of these people, but the most impressive part, that I think that has some reference to where we are today, is reading about a young man named Christopher Columbus who was from a town called Genoa, Italy, who had been all over the world trying to sell his belief that the world was round and not flat, and he was rejected wherever he went. Except when he came to Spain and he talked to your then King, King Ferdinand. And he was about to reject him and then his Queen, Queen Isabella, came in and said, 'Let's hear this story again!" And he gave her the story and she believed in it and hocked her jewelry to purchase and outfit three boats for him, the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria." I said, "Off he sailed and he discovered the country where I was born." I said, "Now, that's a long answer," I said, "but the point I would like to make in direct reference to your question as to what do I see as the future of Spain, I can only tell you that if everybody in the world rejected Columbus' idea and you had a King and Queen as long ago as 1492 who believed in him, who had that kind of vision and that kind of foresight," I said, "I would only think that your country is destined to have a great future." Thereby obviating the question as to the political answer they ex~ected at that moment, you see. Q: Yes. A: But it is interesting how the backwood parts of your life are there. We have a lot of facts, I think, in our minds, and it just sort of lanquishes in the recesses of our minds, that we don't think about from time to time until there is an absolute need for them to explain or to make a point at the current time. And you sometimes are very surprised what's in the back pf your mind, what's there, you know. There's another example of that I would share with you. About eight years ago, maybe six, I went to Arkansas, back to visit, and the then governor, who is now the United States senator, found I was coming and he had a state policeman to meet me. He told me the governor canceled my reservation at the hotel because he, the governor, wanted me to stay at the governor's mansion. And I thought it was very interesting, you know, going back and having lived there when it was segregated and all and now I'm the guest of the governor. And when I was standing on the front porch at the governor's mansion waiting to be admitted, an incident came back to me, which had happened some forty-five, fifty years before, of when I was eight or nine years old and I went to this lady's house in Ripley, Tennessee, at the request of my grandmother to pick up something. And it was a white woman and she said, "Who are you?" And I said, "I'm Mrs. Dupree Lee's grandson." And she said, "Well, boy, get your little butt around to my back door." She said, "No niggers come to my front door." Now, I had forgotten that until I was standing on the front door of the governor's mansion, forty-five, fifty years later and I remembered the inci-- dent. That was the first time I'd ever remembered it since it happened. It's just very--kind of interesting. 9: Yes, sir. Are there any other incidents from your school life that have popped up like that in later life?

A: No. None as dramatic as that. Had a normal kind of background, a small town kid. I always had some kind of a little job either cleaning up an insurance office or working in a hotel or shining shoes or picking cotton or working in the new ground or whatever was honest and legitimate, I had some sort of job. I delivered newspapers, both the dailies and the weeklies. I do remember that when I got the first job as a daily carrier in my hometown, I was the first black kid who had been given opportunity to deliver them. But they did a thing to me that was, well, interesting to say the least. There is another way of characterizing it, I prefer to say interesting. All the white carriers were on commission. The paper was fifteen cents a week and when they collected fifteen cents they remitted nine cents and kept six cents for themselves. They did not give me that same opportunity. They suggested to me that I took out X number of papers a week and I paid nine cents for each paper. What I collected they didn't care, I just had to pay them nine cents for each weekly paper I took out, which made me an independent contractor at about ten or eleven years old. So it has not hurt me. I suppose at that point I was a little upset that I would be treated differently but actually, it probably helped me because it made me a better kind of an entrepreneur than if I had been on a salary. Those are the kinds of things that you think about sometimes as being just so wasteful of talent, you know. It reminds me of so many scholarship opportunities for people who came along in my age who were not given them who perhaps could have made a substantial contribution to the growth and development of this country. It seems that there are some other countries, particularly Russia, that make sure that people who have some mentality get a chance to use it for the benefit of the country, you know. They make sure that they get to school and that they do some things that they wouldn't do if nobody gave them a push. Q: Yes, sir. You mentioned working a new land. What is that? A: Well., in Arkansas, there were always areas where there were trees and they, you know, would dynamite the trees and you would clean out the underbrush for the land to be put into agriculture pursuits. Always a lot of new land, they called it new ground. Q: Yes, I see. (pause) ~et's see, when would you have first taken civics in school, sir? A: I probably took civics, I guess, in the sixth grade. Yes, we had civics in the sixth grade and then again, about eleventh grade, we took what was called American Government, Civics was basically, at the grammar school level, an orientation to the governmental process without any real emphasis on all the nuances of government but an overview of what government was about and how it operates. Q: Your mother was county supervisor of schools. Was that an elective office?

"I remember reading about the Greeks and the Phoenicians and all <strong>of</strong> these<br />

people, but the most impressive part, that I think that has some reference to<br />

where we are today, is reading about a young man named Christopher Columbus<br />

who was from a town called Genoa, Italy, who had been all over the world<br />

trying to sell his belief that the world was round and not flat, and he was<br />

rejected wherever he went. Except when he came to Spain and he talked to your<br />

then King, King Ferdinand. And he was about to reject him and then his Queen,<br />

Queen Isabella, came in and said, 'Let's hear this story again!" And he gave<br />

her the story and she believed in it and hocked her jewelry to purchase and<br />

outfit three boats for him, the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria." I said,<br />

"Off he sailed and he discovered the country where I was born." I said, "Now,<br />

that's a long answer," I said, "but the point I would like to make in direct<br />

reference to your question as to what do I see as the future <strong>of</strong> Spain, I can<br />

only tell you that if everybody in the world rejected Columbus' idea and you<br />

had a King and Queen as long ago as 1492 who believed in him, who had that<br />

kind <strong>of</strong> vision and that kind <strong>of</strong> foresight," I said, "I would only think that<br />

your country is destined to have a great future." Thereby obviating the question<br />

as to the political answer they ex~ected at that moment, you see.<br />

Q: Yes.<br />

A: But it is interesting how the backwood parts <strong>of</strong> your life are there. We<br />

have a lot <strong>of</strong> facts, I think, in our minds, and it just sort <strong>of</strong> lanquishes in<br />

the recesses <strong>of</strong> our minds, that we don't think about from time to time until<br />

there is an absolute need for them to explain or to make a point at the current<br />

time. And you sometimes are very surprised what's in the back pf your<br />

mind, what's there, you know.<br />

There's another example <strong>of</strong> that I would share with you. About eight years ago,<br />

maybe six, I went to Arkansas, back to visit, and the then governor, who is<br />

now the United States senator, found I was coming and he had a state policeman<br />

to meet me. He told me the governor canceled my reservation at the hotel<br />

because he, the governor, wanted me to stay at the governor's mansion. And I<br />

thought it was very interesting, you know, going back and having lived there<br />

when it was segregated and all and now I'm the guest <strong>of</strong> the governor. And when<br />

I was standing on the front porch at the governor's mansion waiting to be<br />

admitted, an incident came back to me, which had happened some forty-five,<br />

fifty years before, <strong>of</strong> when I was eight or nine years old and I went to this<br />

lady's house in Ripley, Tennessee, at the request <strong>of</strong> my grandmother to pick up<br />

something. And it was a white woman and she said, "Who are you?" And I said,<br />

"I'm Mrs. Dupree Lee's grandson." And she said, "Well, boy, get your little<br />

butt around to my back door." She said, "No niggers come to my front door."<br />

Now, I had forgotten that until I was standing on the front door <strong>of</strong> the<br />

governor's mansion, forty-five, fifty years later and I remembered the inci--<br />

dent. That was the first time I'd ever remembered it since it happened.<br />

It's just very--kind <strong>of</strong> interesting.<br />

9: Yes, sir. Are there any other incidents from your school life that have<br />

popped up like that in later life?

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