Deposition of Scott Rothstein re - Trustee Services

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1 Q. Did you go to Runway 84 with Mr. Lipsitz Page 28 2 and/or Mr. Tonacchio on more than one occasion? 3 A. To the best of my recollection, yes. 4 Q. How often did you go there with those 5 gentlemen? 6 A. I can't tell you specifically. I ate dinner 7 there almost every Thursday night for extended periods 8 of time. And then there were other nights that I was 9 there, so I can't tell you how many times specifically 10 with each of those gentlemen. 11 Q. When you say you ate there almost every 12 Thursday night, what period of time was that? 13 A. I'd be guessing. It was over a very long 14 period of time, years and years. 15 Q. 2006 through 2009? 16 MR. PHILLIPS: Objection, form. 17 THE WITNESS: At least. 18 BY MR. GAY: 19 Q. When you went to Runway 84 on Thursday 20 nights, did you always go with someone or did you show 21 up by yourself? 22 A. Both. 23 Q. Who did you typically meet with when you had 24 dinner there on Thursday nights? 25 THE WITNESS: Mr. LaVecchio, do you want me
1 to name the people? Page 29 2 MR. LAVECCHIO: To the extent that you've 3 already testified about these matters, I think you 4 may continue to do so. To the extent you have not, 5 then I may interpose an objection. 6 MR. GAY: I don't know if this helps, but 7 perhaps if you can just tell me who the usual 8 attendees were -- 9 SPECIAL AGENT GUARIGLIA: Larry, I think 10 you'll need to interpose. 11 MR. LAVECCHIO: In that case I'll object at 12 this point on privilege grounds. 13 MR. LICHTMAN: For the record, it's clear 14 it's investigatory privilege and the trustee will 15 honor that. 16 MR. SALIM: Just so I'm clear, the question 17 was who did you meet with for dinner on Thursday 18 nights at Runway 84, and that's privileged? 19 MR. LICHTMAN: Investigatory prejudice by 20 the government. 21 SPECIAL AGENT GUARIGLIA: Can you get 22 that -- 23 MR. PHILLIPS: I just want to understand 24 what -- 25 THE WITNESS: Mr. LaVecchio, if you can
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Page 3 and 4: 1 ALSO PRESENT: 2 Domenick Tonacchi
Page 5 and 6: 1 MR. LIPSITZ: Barry Lipsitz. Page
Page 7 and 8: 1 A. That's correct. Page 7 2 Q. Ma
Page 9 and 10: 1 first had a home just off of A1A
Page 11 and 12: 1 A. It was an investment vehicle.
Page 13 and 14: 1 where Mr. Lipsitz was there. Othe
Page 15 and 16: 1 A. Yes, it's certainly possible.
Page 17 and 18: 1 establishment? Page 17 2 A. A han
Page 19 and 20: 1 Q. Who else would have accompanie
Page 21 and 22: 1 private jet with Mr. Lipsitz? Pag
Page 23 and 24: 1 Q. And this is an e-mail in June
Page 25 and 26: 1 Q. Okay. If you see the text of t
Page 27: 1 went to that graduation party? Pa
Page 31 and 32: 1 of them was there. Page 31 2 Q. W
Page 33 and 34: 1 A. I do. Page 33 2 Q. Is that pho
Page 35 and 36: 1 they are. Page 35 2 Q. You never
Page 37 and 38: 1 watch for Mr. Tonacchio? Page 37
Page 39 and 40: 1 Q. So if Mr. Lipsitz previously t
Page 41 and 42: 1 THE WITNESS: If you could show me
Page 43 and 44: 1 lie. Page 43 2 Q. It would have b
Page 45 and 46: 1 to mean additional money over and
Page 47 and 48: 1 risk. Page 47 2 MR. PHILLIPS: Obj
Page 49 and 50: 1 very long period of time. Page 49
Page 51 and 52: 1 they could make a lot of money wi
Page 53 and 54: 1 in reference to the Picou loan? P
Page 55 and 56: 1 e-mail that goes with this specif
Page 57 and 58: 1 explain that to me? Page 57 2 A.
Page 59 and 60: 1 BY MR. GAY: Page 59 2 Q. And look
Page 61 and 62: 1 excuse me. "Late payment penalty
Page 63 and 64: 1 Q. But you would refer to each of
Page 65 and 66: 1 determine whether or not a specif
Page 67 and 68: 1 Morse and the Levys. Was there an
Page 69 and 70: 1 A. You know, I don't recall speci
Page 71 and 72: 1 Q. If you'd look at Document 0022
Page 73 and 74: 1 A. Yes. Page 73 2 Q. That's an e-
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1 A. Yes, sir. Page 79 2 Q. So acco
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1 it says, "It was great getting to
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1 THE WITNESS: I don't. I don't hav
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1 e-mail, no, sir. Page 85 2 Q. Loo
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1 then when I finally did have the
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1 construction loan or something of
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1 A. I do. Page 91 2 Q. About the m
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1 couldn't decipher what was being
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1 A. I do. Page 95 2 Q. George who?
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1 BY MR. GAY: Page 97 2 Q. A few mo
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1 MR. PHILLIPS: Same. Page 99 2 THE
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1 were sitting around in a group, l
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1 time between myself and these peo
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1 Q. Did you, in fact, invest money
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1 A. Specifically, no. Sounds like
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1 illegal activity that I did with
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1 other business deals. More than t
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1 MR. SALIM: Because he's a liar, p
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1 that were associated with organiz
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1 crime or associates of organized
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1 A. Both ones that I was an invest
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1 are saying? Page 121 2 A. It's no
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1 was a distinction between a "sett
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1 BY MR. SALIM: Page 125 2 Q. If yo
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1 note was usurious? Page 127 2 A.
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1 deals or structured settlement de
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1 been owed money from RRA? Page 13
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1 A. Yes, sir. Page 133 2 Q. All ri
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1 MR. GAY: Objection to form. Page
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1 Q. And did you have an opinion as
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1 clients and what was going on on
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1 broken down? Page 141 2 A. That i
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1 on these "settlement deals"? Page
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1 yes, sir. Page 145 2 MR. SALIM: A
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1 "loan." Page 147 2 I think you ca
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1 asking? I mean, just generally as
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1 husband/wife privilege. You are n
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1 Q. It could be a mistake, could b
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1 uncle, or any other person that t
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1 Q. What do you mean by that, Scot
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1 A. Yes. Page 159 2 MR. GAY: Objec
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1 Q. With respect to the Picou deal
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1 BY MR. PHILLIPS: Page 163 2 Q. Di
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1 him, use it as he needed to for d
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1 BY MR. PHILLIPS: Page 167 2 Q. Ri
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1 June 4th, Mr. Lichtman asked you
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1 going on. Then it morphed into fu
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1 Q. Now, in the plea agreement you
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1 documents establish. Page 175 2 Q
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1 That he had actually been living
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1 Q. In fact, didn't Mr. Caputi con
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1 A. I don't know whether I did or
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1 Page 38 of that transcript that y
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1 A. I mean, hang on, court records
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1 A. I'll be polite and not discuss
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1 Q. And do you recall saying that
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1 Q. Yes. Page 191 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. D
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1 MR. PHILLIPS: What's wrong with t
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1 looked at so many documents and h
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1 upon what my thought process was
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1 Q. So your position was, when you
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1 Q. Do you recall telling him that
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1 relationship with God, right? Pag
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1 the money into. Page 205 2 Q. Wel
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