Deposition Transcript of Scott Rothstein (Albert ... - Trustee Services
Deposition Transcript of Scott Rothstein (Albert ... - Trustee Services Deposition Transcript of Scott Rothstein (Albert ... - Trustee Services
1 How do you explain the difference in the Page 32 2 invoices? 3 A. The difference is the money that we stole 4 with Albert Peter. 5 Q. What do you mean by that? 6 A. We were engaged in a scheme with Albert 7 Peter to embezzle money from Silversea utilizing 8 fraudulent legal bills, and what would occur is the 9 following: In this particular circumstance we 10 printed up a real bill, which was the one which 11 actually has the time entries on it with the people 12 who performed it. We then had the bill redone by 13 someone, they hand did it on the system, without the 14 time entries. 15 We used a format that did not have the 16 biller or the time entry. We discussed how much we 17 were going to bill with Albert Peter. We printed up 18 the forged bill with the bumped amount and the bills 19 were always hand-delivered to Mr. Peter, and on this 20 particular occasion and on some others we gave him 21 both bills -- the one with the entries and the one 22 that did not have the entries -- the fraudulent 23 bill -- so that he could see the amount specifically 24 that we actually did and how much we bumped -- 25 Q. Was this the ---
1 A. -- so that he could see it. Page 33 2 Q. I'm sorry. Were you finished? 3 A. No. So that he could see how much the bump 4 was so he knew how much to ask us for back. 5 Q. Was this the business practice that you 6 engaged in with Mr. Peter for every invoice where 7 there would be an invoice with legitimate time that 8 would reflect the hourly charges -- the hours billed 9 -- the charges for those hourly charges -- and then a 10 similar or identical invoice where those entries, 11 such as the hours and charges, were deleted? 12 A. It would, and it would also have been -- 13 there are -- should be a series of bills that don't 14 have a real corresponding bill that were also 15 fraudulent, so both. Yes. 16 Q. I'm going to get to those. 17 A. Okay. 18 Q. Whose idea was it to come up with this 19 scheme to pad the bills and submit them to Silversea 20 for payment? 21 A. Albert and mine. 22 Q. Do you remember how it came about? 23 A. At some point in time Albert was discussing 24 with me his need for additional moneys to assist him 25 with payment of one or more of his mistresses and
- Page 1 and 2: 1 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT SO
- Page 3 and 4: 1 Thereupon: Page 3 2 SCOTT ROTHSTE
- Page 5 and 6: 1 of the relationship began. Page 5
- Page 7 and 8: 1 say that this is an area of inqui
- Page 9 and 10: 1 Q. Sort of using the vernacular h
- Page 11 and 12: 1 able to direct that you would get
- Page 13 and 14: 1 Q. Did Mr. Peter actually acknowl
- Page 15 and 16: 1 beginning she did not. Page 15 2
- Page 17 and 18: 1 Q. All right. If you would turn t
- Page 19 and 20: 1 A. No. Page 19 2 Q. These are sep
- Page 21 and 22: 1 this sounds even with Mr. Peter's
- Page 23 and 24: 1 Q. Let's just focus in on the iss
- Page 25 and 26: 1 I was providing him legal advice
- Page 27 and 28: 1 mutually addressed Mr. Peter and
- Page 29 and 30: 1 dollar amount attributable to tha
- Page 31: 1 A. Yes, sir. Page 31 2 Q. And the
- Page 35 and 36: 1 A. In the beginning it was me, Al
- Page 37 and 38: 1 Albert Peter. Page 37 2 This is t
- Page 39 and 40: 1 Silversea? Page 39 2 A. Yes, and
- Page 41 and 42: 1 Q. Then if you take a look at pag
- Page 43 and 44: 1 with him in the amount of time th
- Page 45 and 46: 1 this bill? Page 45 2 A. To the be
- Page 47 and 48: 1 tell you that regardless of how m
- Page 49 and 50: 1 and then get him the money in one
- Page 51 and 52: 1 A. Because I discussed it with hi
- Page 53 and 54: 1 MR. LICHTMAN: Uh-oh. A frozen scr
- Page 55 and 56: 1 Q. When you say keeping Mr. Lefeb
- Page 57 and 58: 1 that he frequented prostitutes wh
- Page 59 and 60: 1 A. At a specific point in time we
- Page 61 and 62: 1 extent that he knew that they wer
- Page 63 and 64: 1 that the police officer was there
- Page 65 and 66: 1 A. I don't recall the date, but t
- Page 67 and 68: 1 after discussing the issue with A
- Page 69 and 70: 1 was located in RRA's offices. Pag
- Page 71 and 72: 1 A. Yes. Page 71 2 Q. There's a bi
- Page 73 and 74: 1 A. No. It would have been anythin
- Page 75 and 76: 1 Q. Is it a fair statement that an
- Page 77 and 78: 1 attorneys' fees that were being i
- Page 79 and 80: 1 Let me first start with Ms. DelVa
- Page 81 and 82: 1 A. Yes. It's part of the money th
1 A. -- so that he could see it.<br />
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2 Q. I'm sorry. Were you finished?<br />
3 A. No. So that he could see how much the bump<br />
4 was so he knew how much to ask us for back.<br />
5 Q. Was this the business practice that you<br />
6 engaged in with Mr. Peter for every invoice where<br />
7 there would be an invoice with legitimate time that<br />
8 would reflect the hourly charges -- the hours billed<br />
9 -- the charges for those hourly charges -- and then a<br />
10 similar or identical invoice where those entries,<br />
11 such as the hours and charges, were deleted?<br />
12 A. It would, and it would also have been --<br />
13 there are -- should be a series <strong>of</strong> bills that don't<br />
14 have a real corresponding bill that were also<br />
15 fraudulent, so both. Yes.<br />
16 Q. I'm going to get to those.<br />
17 A. Okay.<br />
18 Q. Whose idea was it to come up with this<br />
19 scheme to pad the bills and submit them to Silversea<br />
20 for payment?<br />
21 A. <strong>Albert</strong> and mine.<br />
22 Q. Do you remember how it came about?<br />
23 A. At some point in time <strong>Albert</strong> was discussing<br />
24 with me his need for additional moneys to assist him<br />
25 with payment <strong>of</strong> one or more <strong>of</strong> his mistresses and
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