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REVUE DE PRESSE~PRESS REVIEW~BERHEVOKA ÇAPÊ~RNISTA STAMPA~DENTRO DE LA PRENSA~BASLNÖZETi<br />

The reality of the Kurdish<br />

camps.<br />

be a Kurd was a disgrace.<br />

Iremember being taken to<br />

Diyarbekir' s by my mother<br />

when I was just a small girl.<br />

She was wearing her Kurdish<br />

pesant clothes and I was<br />

aware that because of who<br />

we were we were .badly<br />

taken care of. It isone of my<br />

earliest memories.<br />

Weie you infiuenced poiitically<br />

by Mehdi?<br />

Not directly. Until 1980 the<br />

politicians of Mehdi's generation<br />

did not mix their family<br />

life with their politicallife,<br />

afterwards that changed.<br />

You say you began to<br />

change gradually. in what<br />

way? .<br />

Well, for example the issue<br />

of torture. Ihad known it was<br />

going on since 1979but then<br />

when Mehdi was imprisoned<br />

they began to torture him<br />

and his friends, I saw it as a.<br />

personal thing then. "Ibegan<br />

reading political books ...1<br />

didn't un<strong>de</strong>rstand all the<br />

words."<br />

For six months I was not allowed<br />

to see him, during this<br />

time they were torturing and<br />

beating him. Every week I<br />

would go to the prison to see<br />

him to be told 'no visit'.<br />

About that time I began<br />

reading the books.<br />

The first one, I remember,<br />

was The Partisan 's Daughter.<br />

In those days I did not speak<br />

34. The Middle East October 1993<br />

Turkishwell and could not un<strong>de</strong>rstand<br />

all the words, it was<br />

difficult reading. After that I<br />

read The Red Stones, a book<br />

on the history of the Chinese<br />

communist party. It told the<br />

story of communists against<br />

the system, there were fascists<br />

and there were heroes'<br />

who were thrown into jail, I<br />

comparedit to our own, tt-,e I<br />

Kurdish,situation.<br />

By 1984I had begun taking<br />

part in political activities. I<br />

went on various <strong>de</strong>monstrations<br />

and took strike action<br />

in front of the prison.<br />

How did it feel to be actively<br />

involved?<br />

It was tremendous. I had<br />

changed, become different,<br />

I had an i<strong>de</strong>ntity. It was terrific.<br />

In 1984 I was able to tell<br />

myself, 'Here Iam. Ido exist'.<br />

There continued to be conflict<br />

b<strong>et</strong>ween Mehdi and myself.<br />

He wanted me to be<br />

politically 'involved, to do<br />

things but for him. He was not<br />

happy when I did som<strong>et</strong>hing<br />

for me.<br />

Was this sort of behaviour<br />

typical?<br />

Everywhere in the world<br />

women are ill treated by<br />

men but amongst the Kurds<br />

it isespecially bad. A women<br />

is not even treated as a servant,<br />

she isa thing, almost an<br />

animal. At home for exampie,<br />

my father slept from the<br />

morning through to the evening<br />

when he would wake,<br />

eat and go out to see his<br />

friends to chat with them.<br />

Meanwhile, my mother<br />

spent the whole day working,<br />

taking care of the animals.<br />

When she r<strong>et</strong>urned<br />

home in the evening to prepare<br />

food and take care of<br />

t:-!a fcmily he \ovou:diegular!y<br />

beat her. He believed she<br />

should do everything he<br />

wanted, just like a slave.<br />

"Fora Kurd the birth<br />

of a girl is nothing, "<br />

Forthe first 12years of their<br />

married life my mother did<br />

not bear children. Then she<br />

had four daughters, in quick<br />

succession. Nobody talked<br />

to her, especially not my father'<br />

sfamily. Ifone of my little<br />

sisterswould awaken and cry<br />

in the night and disturb my<br />

. father, he would take my<br />

mother and the child and<br />

throw .them outsi<strong>de</strong>, whatever<br />

the weather. Shewould<br />

stay there until she felt he<br />

was asleep and it was safe to<br />

creep back insi<strong>de</strong>.<br />

For a Kurd the birth of a girl<br />

is nothing. Not long ago my<br />

father visited me and said: 'I<br />

want your brother to marry'.<br />

.When I asked him why he<br />

told me it was because he<br />

MOSAIC<br />

wanted a grandson in case<br />

one day we succeed and<br />

there is a free Kurdistan. I replied<br />

'But you already have<br />

a grandson, my son'. 'No',<br />

my father replied, 'your son is<br />

not interesting, he does not<br />

carry my name.' I am fond<br />

of my father, even though<br />

when he comes back home<br />

he brings with him the violence<br />

he sees outsi<strong>de</strong>, the<br />

violence of the gendarmes<br />

and of the policemen.<br />

Have you ever discussed<br />

these things with your<br />

mother?<br />

No, we saw her very little.<br />

When we were younger she<br />

was working all day and now<br />

she is in very poor physical<br />

condition. My mother islike a<br />

very old woman.<br />

Did your feelings of personal<br />

change continue?<br />

Yes,gradually until in 19881<br />

was arrested. The change<br />

had been little by little until<br />

then when everything became<br />

clear. I was kept in<br />

custody for seven days during<br />

which time I was interrogated<br />

and after that I spent<br />

a further 50 days in jail.<br />

V-!hy were you Oiiested?<br />

I had gone to visit Mehdi.<br />

There were a lot of people in<br />

front of the jail. It was July<br />

and quite hot. Many of the<br />

women there were with babies<br />

and young children,<br />

there were also old women.<br />

Therewas no water and everybody<br />

was very uncomfortable,<br />

especially the young<br />

and the el<strong>de</strong>rly. They took us<br />

into a gar<strong>de</strong>n where it was<br />

.,<br />

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