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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 148 #rights over it merely because it is now a content of your body. #rightful owner retains all rights to it. # The Topologically speaking, swallowing something is the same as holding it in your hand. Now if you have it surgically implanted, i doubt if the sherrif’s office would try to reposses it. frank Article 32 Reference 161500 From n-peal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 9:04 PM rohuck@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (HUCK ROBERT O) writes: >james g. keegan jr. (keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu) wrote: >: HUCK ROBERT O wrote: >: : james g. keegan jr. (keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu) wrote: [...] >: like i said, "the foundation of anti-choice efforts >: is to take rights from a class of person, women. it’s >: pretty easy to portray something that evil in the >: "worst manner."" >No. The foundation is to protect human life. Why is the life of a fetus more important than the life of a woman? [...] >There are many women whose lives are in no way affected >by their right to an abortion. What about them? I’d say they are very fortunate. I’d also say they should be thankful to currently have the freedom to make that extremely personal choice for themselves. >Am I a sexist if I defend their rights in the workplace? Am I a sexist >if I supported the Equal Rights Amendment? Am I a sexist if I support >family leave and increased access to child care? Am I a sexist if I >help a friend who is in a battered women’s shelter? Does all of this >indicate wanting to control women? Why do you insist on making everything >black and white. Life is never that simple. I can see how those acts would help women. abortion help women? How would banning [...] >: -- >: "A woman’s rights to her body should stop where
APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 149 >: the fetus’s body begins." >: Ray Fischer >-- Article 33 Reference 161525 From steiner@netcom.com Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 10:43 PM In Article , ckalina@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Charles Kalina) wrote: >In article , >Robert T. Weverka wrote: >>In article , >>Matt Friedman wrote: >>>I think that the pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand, >>>publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since the shootings >>>they have condemned the violence, but that’s just locking the barn door. > >>In the last shooting they took up a fund to support the murderer’s family. >>The blood is on their hands. > > Who’s "they"? Aren’t we generalizing just a tad here? I’m >probably one of those you consider "they" and I never gave them a cent. >Nor was I ever asked. "they" are Operation Rescue, Rescue America, and Defensive Action, to name three that I know of for sure. Unless you consider yourself to be part of the "pro-live movement," the fact that you didn’t give and wasn’t asked is immaterial to what you’re rebutting. ============================================================================== | M. Steiner | In memory of Drs. John Britton & David Gunn, and | | steiner@netcom.com | James Barrett who gave their lives for women’s rights| ============================================================================== Article 34 Reference 161817 From Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 11:33 AM > It would make them realize that there are alternatives. I have spoken > to several women who have had abortions. They all said they had no > choice. Pretty ironic, eh? They did have choices, but because abortion > is legal, their parents, boyfriends, and abortion counsellors convinced > them this was the only alternative. > Robert Huck ------------------------------------------------------------------- Compulsory abortion? The curse of too many options? Rather sounds like "1984" and the "freedom" from having to make choices.
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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 149<br />
>: <strong>the</strong> fetus’s body begins."<br />
>: Ray Fischer <br />
>--<br />
Article 33<br />
Reference 161525<br />
From steiner@netcom.com<br />
Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 10:43 PM<br />
In Article , ckalina@gwis.circ.gwu.edu<br />
(Charles Kalina) wrote:<br />
>In article ,<br />
>Robert T. Weverka wrote:<br />
>>In article ,<br />
>>Matt Friedman wrote:<br />
>>>I think that <strong>the</strong> pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand,<br />
>>>publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since <strong>the</strong> shootings<br />
>>><strong>the</strong>y have condemned <strong>the</strong> violence, but that’s just locking <strong>the</strong> barn door.<br />
><br />
>>In <strong>the</strong> last shooting <strong>the</strong>y took up a fund to support <strong>the</strong> murderer’s family.<br />
>>The blood is on <strong>the</strong>ir hands.<br />
><br />
> Who’s "<strong>the</strong>y"? Aren’t we generalizing just a tad here? I’m<br />
>probably one of those you consider "<strong>the</strong>y" and I never gave <strong>the</strong>m a cent.<br />
>Nor was I ever asked.<br />
"<strong>the</strong>y" are Operation Rescue, Rescue America, and Defensive Action, to name<br />
three that I know of for sure. Unless you consider yourself to be part of<br />
<strong>the</strong> "pro-live movement," <strong>the</strong> fact that you didn’t give and wasn’t asked is<br />
immaterial to what you’re rebutting.<br />
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| M. Steiner | In memory of Drs. John Britton & David Gunn, and |<br />
| steiner@netcom.com | James Barrett who gave <strong>the</strong>ir lives for women’s rights|<br />
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Article 34<br />
Reference 161817<br />
From <br />
Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 11:33 AM<br />
> It would make <strong>the</strong>m realize that <strong>the</strong>re are alternatives. I have spoken<br />
> to several women who have had abortions. They all said <strong>the</strong>y had no<br />
> choice. Pretty ironic, eh? They did have choices, but because abortion<br />
> is legal, <strong>the</strong>ir parents, boyfriends, and abortion counsellors convinced<br />
> <strong>the</strong>m this was <strong>the</strong> only alternative.<br />
> Robert Huck<br />
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Compulsory abortion? The curse of too many options?<br />
Ra<strong>the</strong>r sounds like "1984" and <strong>the</strong> "freedom" from having to<br />
make choices.