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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 128 rohuck@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (HUCK ROBERT O) writes: >james g. keegan jr. (keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu) wrote: [deletions] >: : Do you get my point? >: is it that you, like most anti-choicers, need to shriek >: emotionally laden words like "kill defenseless >: children" in the hope of intimidating teh few who might >: believe you? >Readers please note - Mr. Keegan offered no proof to support his claim, >he merely threw around charges of intimidation. If you cannot address >the issues I discussed, save the bandwidth. And readers...while you’re at it, please note that Mr. Huck has been ignoring questions I asked of him. For example, when he earlier stated that granting a fetus full rights from the moment of conception was the safest alternative I asked "Safest for whom?" no reply As when I also asked him if he has the right to be inside my body against my will Oh...he must be saving bandwidth :-) >: : Furthermore, I refuse to defend myself or any other pro-lifer I know >: : against charges of sexism. >: that makes sense. it wouldn’t work anyway. >Once again, you conveniently deleted what came next. For those who did >not read my previous article, I went on to say that any woman I know (even >those who are pro-choice) know that I am not a sexist. Fortunately, Ah...and you can’t be a bigot because your best friend is a (whatever). Sorry...but your stated stance concerning abortion speaks for you, Robert. If your views discriminate specifically against a gender (women), that’s sexist...no matter what your friends think. >my friends are open-minded. Mr. Keegan obviously is not. He seems to I do not see Mr. Keegan discriminating against women here. see you doing such...who is "open-minded"? I do >have a litmus test to determine a person’s level of mysogyny. >is never that simple. Sexism As you’ll someday (hopefully) find out. Nora

APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 129 I suppose you also support Ray Fischer’s statement below? say it is a common pro-life stance? Would you >: -- >: "A woman’s rights to her body should stop where >: the fetus’s body begins." >: Ray Fischer >-- Article 11 Reference 161392 From keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 12:45 PM Robert T. Weverka wrote: : Matt Friedman wrote: : >I think that the pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand, : >publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since the shootings : >they have condemned the violence, but that’s just locking the barn door. : : In the last shooting they took up a fund to support the murderer’s family. i’ll bet they do something similar this time. and the next time. -- "A woman’s rights to her body should stop where the fetus’s body begins." Ray Fischer Article 12 Reference 161848 From ronkanen@cc.Helsinki.FI Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 12:55 PM followups to talk.abortion In article , HUCK ROBERT O wrote: >Bruce Cameron (bmc@mayo.edu) wrote: >: In article 78948@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu, rohuck@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (HUCK ROBERT O) writes: > >No. But you are forgetting something. Abortion is legal in most states >throughout the entire 9 months of pregnancy. Pro-choicers have never >addressed the issue of when a person becomes a human being. If it is not >at conception, when is it? Why? To illustrate the point, I offer the >following hypothetical situation: > >Two women become pregnant on the same day. Let us a assume a standard >9-month pregnancy. The first woman delivers her child 2 months early >(after only 7 months). The child survives. The second woman aborts >her baby the day after the first woman delivered her child. If the

APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 129<br />

I suppose you also support Ray Fischer’s statement below?<br />

say it is a common pro-life stance?<br />

Would you<br />

>: --<br />

>: "A woman’s rights to her body should stop where<br />

>: <strong>the</strong> fetus’s body begins."<br />

>: Ray Fischer <br />

>--<br />

Article 11<br />

Reference 161392<br />

From keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu<br />

Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 12:45 PM<br />

Robert T. Weverka wrote:<br />

: Matt Friedman wrote:<br />

: >I think that <strong>the</strong> pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand,<br />

: >publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since <strong>the</strong> shootings<br />

: ><strong>the</strong>y have condemned <strong>the</strong> violence, but that’s just locking <strong>the</strong> barn door.<br />

:<br />

: In <strong>the</strong> last shooting <strong>the</strong>y took up a fund to support <strong>the</strong> murderer’s family.<br />

i’ll bet <strong>the</strong>y do something similar this time.<br />

and <strong>the</strong> next time.<br />

--<br />

"A woman’s rights to her body should stop where<br />

<strong>the</strong> fetus’s body begins."<br />

Ray Fischer <br />

Article 12<br />

Reference 161848<br />

From ronkanen@cc.Helsinki.FI<br />

Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 12:55 PM<br />

followups to talk.abortion<br />

In article ,<br />

HUCK ROBERT O wrote:<br />

>Bruce Cameron (bmc@mayo.edu) wrote:<br />

>: In article 78948@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu, rohuck@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu<br />

(HUCK ROBERT O) writes:<br />

><br />

>No. But you are forgetting something. Abortion is legal in most states<br />

><strong>through</strong>out <strong>the</strong> entire 9 months of pregnancy. Pro-choicers have never<br />

>addressed <strong>the</strong> issue of when a person becomes a human being. If it is not<br />

>at conception, when is it? Why? To illustrate <strong>the</strong> point, I offer <strong>the</strong><br />

>following hypo<strong>the</strong>tical situation:<br />

><br />

>Two women become pregnant on <strong>the</strong> same day. Let us a assume a standard<br />

>9-month pregnancy. The first woman delivers her child 2 months early<br />

>(after only 7 months). The child survives. The second woman aborts<br />

>her baby <strong>the</strong> day after <strong>the</strong> first woman delivered her child. If <strong>the</strong>

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