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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 126 >>>anti-choicers say that it has that right. >> >>Incorrect. The fetus is not a "trespasser", since it lacks the capacity to >>have a criminal intent -- a 5-year-old is likewise incapable of being a >>"trespasser". The fetus is at least as much a victim of circumstance as the >>woman is. The onset and continuation of pregnancy creates no "aggressor" and >>no "victim", in a criminal-justice sense. > >If the fetus is inside the woman’s body and she doesn’t want it in there, >she has the right to have it evicted, You said "trespass" before, now you’re switching to "eviction"? Very well then... Under what statute may "eviction" proceedings be brought against a minor who is not legally competent to enter into a leasehold in the first place? Or are you using the word in a strange way? - Kevin Article 7 Reference 161432 From regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 9:24 AM In article dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (ZZYZX) writes: >Or maybe, and I realize that this is just a stretch, maybe the pro-life >movement really believes abortion is murder. Personally I am >pro-choice. However I know a lot of intelligent pro-lifers, many >of whom are not religious, have sex, and don’t have a hidden agenda of >controlling all women. They just happen to believe that abortion is >muder. Do they happen to believe that self-defense is murder, too? Do they happen to believe that organ seizure is "ok"? Do they happen to support the connection of dying violinists to people who protest, as well? They may well think it’s murder, but did they stop thinking there? What do they think about forcing the woman to undertake a risk she has no willingness to undertake? About forcing women to support a fetus against their will? Do they think about that part? At all? Or do they figure "too bad"? Do you suppose they have the same attitude about other technological failures? >Believe it or not, >different people can come to different opinions about an issue without >one side being evil or mislead. Perhaps. But are the pro-lifers willing to acknowledge that people of good faith might have an opinion different from them, and *not* act to impose their opinion upon others? After all, pro-choicers aren’t forcing pro-lifers to have abortions. They aren’t forcing pro-lifers to do much of anything. Pro-choicers do, however, fully expect to be able to govern their own lives according to their own beliefs, and are running into roadblocks erected by these non-evil non-mislead persons who have different opinions.
APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 127 The difference of opinion isn’t the problem. is. The IMPOSITION of that opinion Adrienne Regard Article 8 Reference 161385 From weverka@spot.Colorado.EDU Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 10:26 AM In article , Matt Friedman wrote: >I think that the pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand, >publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since the shootings >they have condemned the violence, but that’s just locking the barn door. In the last shooting they took up a fund to support the murderer’s family. The blood is on their hands. Article 9 Reference 161408 From ckalina@gwis.circ.gwu.edu Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 11:42 AM In article , Robert T. Weverka wrote: >In article , >Matt Friedman wrote: >>I think that the pro-life movement should have taken an acative stand, >>publicly, against that type of terrorism and violence. Since the shootings >>they have condemned the violence, but that’s just locking the barn door. >In the last shooting they took up a fund to support the murderer’s family. >The blood is on their hands. Who’s "they"? Aren’t we generalizing just a tad here? I’m probably one of those you consider "they" and I never gave them a cent. Nor was I ever asked. When mainstream environmental groups condemn eco-terrorism, I’ll grant your point. -- Charles P. Kalina, Lizard King of the Universe "If women ran the world, there would be no wars. Instead, nations would tease each other until they developed eating disorders." My opinions are my own, but they should be everyone’s... :-) Article 10 Reference 161390 From n-peal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 12:24 PM
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