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Carolyn Dimmick Final PDF.indd - Washington Secretary of State

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Hughes: But too modest by a turn, I think. Her modesty and her unpretentiousness.<br />

I asked, “Judge, do you have any pictures?” She said, “Oh yeah, I’ll have them dig out<br />

some stuff.” And she sends me <strong>of</strong>f with two notebooks <strong>of</strong> stuff, including a drawing <strong>of</strong> this<br />

knockout 23-year-old waterskiing. … So tell me about <strong>Carolyn</strong> <strong>Dimmick</strong>. Is what you see<br />

what you get?<br />

Lasnik: Totally, and I think the thing that’s underestimated about her, especially in the<br />

state Supreme Court … Being the first woman on the state Supreme Court, you know that<br />

is a tough place to suddenly change. Sandra Day O’Connor did it a year later with the U.S.<br />

Supreme Court. But the kind <strong>of</strong> person who the first is, is always so important to how it’s<br />

going to be perceived, and how it’s going to be received. And I think just as Justice Sandra<br />

Day O’Connor turned out to be a remarkable pick for Ronald Reagan, <strong>Carolyn</strong> <strong>Dimmick</strong><br />

turned out to be the perfect person because she was able to make her male colleagues<br />

adjust and accept without ever making them feel put upon, or under attack, or anything.<br />

Hughes: A man’s woman and a woman’s woman?<br />

Lasnik: You’ve seen it. And you’ve seen it in newsroom, right?<br />

Hughes: Absolutely.<br />

Lasnik: <strong>Carolyn</strong> just set them at ease, and made it so much easier for Barbara Durham,<br />

who came after, to the point where you end up with a majority …<br />

Hughes: They had a five-member majority from 2003-2005.<br />

Lasnik: There again too, she was a saint to Barbara Durham in those years when she<br />

started to decline. I mean she’s a very loyal friend; she is a tremendous colleague. She was<br />

chief judge here for three years. And on the state Supreme Court I think she was able to<br />

forge alliances with people from both the liberal wing, like Jim Dolliver…<br />

Hughes: You’d think if you just read the clippings that she was a doctrinaire conservative.<br />

Lasnik: She never was. And the thing that people always came away talking about with<br />

her was she’s not the kind <strong>of</strong> judge you come away talking about her intellectual capacity.<br />

It’s there but it doesn’t jump out at you as much as the graciousness, the courtesy, the<br />

respect, the relaxed manner, and things like that, which are much more important in a<br />

lot <strong>of</strong> ways. I’m not saying she didn’t have tremendous intellectual power, but she is so<br />

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