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<strong>Explor<strong>in</strong>g</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Unknown</strong> 327<br />

McDivitt<br />

I thought it was.<br />

[4-48]<br />

White<br />

I did too. I felt it was down far enough. I can tell by look<strong>in</strong>g right straight down<br />

at <strong>the</strong> edge--.<br />

McDivitt<br />

Yes. I can tell by look<strong>in</strong>g up underneath <strong>the</strong> right-hand side to see where <strong>the</strong> dogs<br />

are.<br />

White<br />

Okay. So I thought <strong>the</strong> hatch was down far enough to close at that time. I reached<br />

up and got <strong>the</strong> handle, but I don’t know what I said to you.<br />

McDivitt<br />

You didn’t say anyth<strong>in</strong>g. I don’t know whe<strong>the</strong>r you said anyth<strong>in</strong>g to me or not, but<br />

you didn’t have to say anyth<strong>in</strong>g to me. I saw you move that handle, and I saw how<br />

easy it was go<strong>in</strong>g, and I saw that <strong>the</strong> dogs weren’t mov<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

White<br />

I th<strong>in</strong>k I said someth<strong>in</strong>g. I don’t remember what I said. But I said someth<strong>in</strong>g, and<br />

you knew right away what had happened.<br />

McDivitt<br />

You didn’t say a word. I was watch<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> dogs and that lever, and I knew what <strong>the</strong><br />

trouble was.<br />

White<br />

Right. So I guess that’s when I said, “I’m go<strong>in</strong>g to have to take <strong>the</strong> visor off because<br />

I can’t see.” And <strong>the</strong>n we went back up and Jim said, “Well, we’re not go<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

open <strong>the</strong> hatch aga<strong>in</strong>. Why don’t you throw <strong>the</strong> visor out.” I hesitated for a m<strong>in</strong>ute<br />

to throw it out because I thought that we might have a problem.<br />

McDivitt<br />

Actually, we had a little more difficulty than we had expected. We fooled around<br />

for a m<strong>in</strong>ute or 2 or maybe even 3 or 4 with <strong>the</strong> handle. It was pretty apparent<br />

to us that we weren’t go<strong>in</strong>g to get <strong>the</strong> hatch closed with normal, straight-forward<br />

techniques, and that we were go<strong>in</strong>g to have to start go<strong>in</strong>g to o<strong>the</strong>r th<strong>in</strong>gs. While<br />

we say that we came down and moved <strong>the</strong> handle once or twice, it was over about<br />

a 3 or 4-m<strong>in</strong>ute period, at least.<br />

White<br />

<strong>The</strong> normal method of clos<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> hatch is for me to come down and wedge<br />

myself down, hold onto <strong>the</strong> little canvas handle up <strong>the</strong>re, and actually apply a<br />

downward force on <strong>the</strong> hatch to help close it. <strong>The</strong>n with my right hand I use <strong>the</strong><br />

hatch handle to ratchet <strong>the</strong> hatch down. This is normally our technique to ratchet<br />

<strong>the</strong> hatch down. This is normally our technique we would always use, and never <strong>in</strong>

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