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<strong>Explor<strong>in</strong>g</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Unknown</strong> 75<br />

A. Background<br />

1. I made my first contact with ARPA personnel on May 14, 1958. At that<br />

time <strong>the</strong> NACA was under <strong>the</strong> impression that it was to work with Dr. Batdorf<br />

to prepare a man-<strong>in</strong>-space program that would be acceptable to both <strong>the</strong><br />

NACA and ARPA from a technical standpo<strong>in</strong>t. My first visit to <strong>the</strong> Pentagon<br />

revealed that ARPA had a somewhat different impression of what was to take<br />

place. I was told that at <strong>the</strong> request of Mr. Johnson a panel had been formed <strong>in</strong><br />

ARPA to create a man-<strong>in</strong>-space program and to advise him how this program<br />

could best be managed. ARPA had formed this panel approximately a week<br />

earlier from members of <strong>the</strong> ARPA technical staff under <strong>the</strong> Chairmanship of<br />

Dr. Batdorf. I was told that this was only one of many such work<strong>in</strong>g groups that<br />

was concurrently attack<strong>in</strong>g various jobs <strong>in</strong> ARPA and that <strong>the</strong> membership on<br />

<strong>the</strong>se various panels greatly overlapped. Accord<strong>in</strong>gly, my position on <strong>the</strong> man<strong>in</strong>-space<br />

panel was a special one result<strong>in</strong>g from an <strong>in</strong>vitation by Dr. York.<br />

2. Inasmuch as this situation was not exactly <strong>in</strong> keep<strong>in</strong>g with my impression<br />

of what it should be, I told <strong>the</strong> panel that while I would sit as a member<br />

of <strong>the</strong>ir panel I would also consider myself as a liaison representative of <strong>the</strong><br />

NACA. In this respect, I rem<strong>in</strong>ded <strong>the</strong>m that <strong>the</strong> direct responsibility for <strong>the</strong><br />

man-<strong>in</strong>-space program may quite likely be given to <strong>the</strong> soon to be created<br />

civilian space agency. Thus, I would be concerned that <strong>the</strong> man-<strong>in</strong>-space program<br />

to be formulated would be one that is acceptable to <strong>the</strong> NASA and that<br />

<strong>the</strong> management responsibility would be one which could be transferred with<br />

<strong>the</strong> least difficulty. I stated fur<strong>the</strong>r that if <strong>the</strong>re are any f<strong>in</strong>al agreements to<br />

be reached between ARPA and NACA <strong>the</strong>y would have to be approved by<br />

higher authority, presumably Dr. Dryden and Dr. York and quite possibly by<br />

knowledgeable people from <strong>the</strong> White House. Dr. Batdorf concurred with<br />

this and stated that <strong>the</strong> ARPA staff, most of whom work for IDA, serve only <strong>in</strong><br />

an advisory capacity.<br />

3. My deal<strong>in</strong>gs with <strong>the</strong> ARPA panel have been quite pleasant and I<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k fruitful. On <strong>the</strong> majority of <strong>the</strong> issues <strong>the</strong> panel has reached essentially<br />

unanimous agreement. On controversial subjects my viewpo<strong>in</strong>ts are apparently<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g given fair consideration. In addition, <strong>the</strong> panel is quite aware that<br />

<strong>the</strong> NACA has a firm position <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> man-<strong>in</strong>-space bus<strong>in</strong>ess. From this standpo<strong>in</strong>t,<br />

I have additional <strong>in</strong>fluence when <strong>the</strong> question of acceptability to NACA<br />

arises <strong>in</strong> certa<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>stances.<br />

4. While a good number of <strong>the</strong> ARPA staff have attended <strong>the</strong> panel discussions<br />

and <strong>the</strong> presentations made to <strong>the</strong> panels by <strong>the</strong> services, those who<br />

actually serve on <strong>the</strong> panel are:<br />

1. Dr. Sam Batdorf, recently from Lockheed<br />

2. Dr. Arthur Stosick, recently from JPL<br />

3. Mr. Bob Youngquist, recently from RMI<br />

4. Mr. Jack Irv<strong>in</strong>e, recently from Convair

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