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50 Panel Discussion: Session IA<br />

the intensive chemotherapy at the time of marrow harvest. The latter possibility<br />

is not likely because acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL) treatment is probably<br />

and quite similarly intensive in this disease and autologous bone marrow<br />

transplantation (ABMT) is not associated with delayed recovery.<br />

DR. F. BABAPULLE: Dr. Lowenberg, your patients experienced prolonged<br />

pancytopenia following the autograft and you showed a correlation between<br />

this phenomenon and granulocyte-macrophage colony-forming unit (CFCI-GM)<br />

numbers. Do you think you could have circumvented this problem by actually<br />

increasing the cell dose or giving them a supplementary autograft, maybe 14<br />

days after the first?<br />

DR. LOWENBERG: At this time, we cannot solve that question. We gave all<br />

the cells we harvested immediately after finishing the conditioning regimen, so<br />

we had no additional cells left for a second transplant.<br />

DR. C. AUGUST: This may be a naive question and I will ask it to whomever<br />

wants to answer it. In the last 3-5 years there has been an extraordinary<br />

improvement in the results of this endeavor of using both purged and unpurged<br />

marrows. I would like to ask to what do you attribute this?<br />

DR. DlCKE: The question is not naive. Let me try to answer it. First, ABMT<br />

is done in an early stage of the disease, so that drug resistance will be minimal.<br />

Second, the time of marrow harvest, after relatively aggressive chemotherapy,<br />

may minimize the presence of leukemic cells. Third, the improved results might<br />

be due to patient selection. Randomized studies will answer this.<br />

Dr. Mandelli, what was the mortality immediately after transplantation in<br />

your first-remission studies?<br />

DR. F. MANDELLI: Only one death of pulmonary embolism at 21 days after<br />

bone marrow infusion.<br />

DR. BURNETT: Dr. Mandelli, how many patients do you know you lost<br />

between achieving remission and doing the autograft who are not actually<br />

postautograft patients?<br />

DR. MANDELLI: Our program was instituted 2 years ago and I think that the<br />

loss of patients was almost between 20% and 25% before bone marrow<br />

transplantation.<br />

DR. DICKE: Are there any questions for Dr. Gorin?<br />

DR. BURNETT: Claude (Dr. Gorin), we've done several in vitro studies on<br />

purging and have not been able to demonstrate that cells prepared as a<br />

mononuclear concentrate from bulk marrow have a reproducible doseresponse<br />

curve. We do two harvests, and we always store one as a back-up. We<br />

have not had the same dose response on a full mononuclear bulk-prepared<br />

marrow as we had the second time. My questions are: Do you know whether it is<br />

fair to make your assumption on an aspirate rather than on your final product?<br />

Was your actual kill, the second time, what you anticipated?

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