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524 Panel Discussion: Session V<br />

to analyze. I think in a couple of them, the peak concentration was quite high. So<br />

1 think that's a possibility, but fairly unlikely, 1 might add.<br />

DR. WOLFF: 1 think that your data suggest that perhaps mucositis is a<br />

multifactorial process. I also think that when we did our study years ago we<br />

weren't quite aware of the prevalence of herpes simplex virus. 1 think that it is a<br />

possibility that we underestimated what the MTD dose is, especially since<br />

mucositis should probably never be an MTD unless it's a pan-mucositis, with the<br />

whole gastrointestinal system involved.<br />

Gary, I just want to tell you what we' re doing atVanderbilt. Since you showed<br />

our slide I thought I would just tell you what our sequence is. We've developed a<br />

systematic approach to adding drugs. Our first drug was etoposide and we<br />

subsequently added cyclophosphamide and platinum. All the patients that you<br />

showed were extensive-stage patients, so what we've seen is with the<br />

combination of etoposide alone, etoposide plus Cytoxan, etoposide plus<br />

Cytoxan plus platinum, is that our latest complete response rate, which were all<br />

pathologically restaged, is now about 80% after two courses in extensive-stage<br />

small cell cancer patients. Our study, which is going on right now, is a<br />

randomization in limited-stage patients between two cycles of very high dose<br />

intense therapy. 1 also have to state that we have never used a bone marrow<br />

transplant in those patients so the doses that we' re giving right now are without<br />

bone marrow transplant and those are 100/kg of Cytoxan, 1200/m 2<br />

of<br />

etoposide, and 120/m 2<br />

of platinum for two cycles as initial therapy and as a<br />

randomization for limited-stage patients between that therapy versus the same<br />

therapy, only at lower doses. We think that we're seeing some long-term<br />

disease-free survivors in extensive-stage patients and are quite anxious to move<br />

that therapy into a population that's going to benefit more from it. A fourth<br />

study that's currently going on in extensive-stage patients while they are in the<br />

hospital is the combination of induction therapy with intense weekly myelosuppressive<br />

therapy. We're keeping the patients in the hospital for about 8<br />

weeks straight, and what we're seeing right now is extremely rapid, complete<br />

responses 2 weeks after therapy.<br />

DR. G. SPITZER: Steve, could I back you up a second? Tell us, in more<br />

detail, what the therapy with the extensive-disease patients is.<br />

DR. WOLFF: As mentioned earlier, there is an 80% complete pathological<br />

response rate in extensive-stage patients. That therapy is now being tried<br />

upfront in limited-stage patients who have been randomized with conventional<br />

CEP. We're trying to show where there really is a meaningful dose-response<br />

relationship in a tumor group, limited-stage, that may potentially benefit from<br />

high-dose intensive therapy. And the next stage, which is the fourth, is to use<br />

that induction therapy with extensive-stage patients but add weekly marrowtoxic<br />

therapy for 8 weeks. 1 don't want to tell you of this study because it's just<br />

been started but in the first couple of patients, we've seen, at this time, all

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