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ON BRUCKNER<br />

TWO CANADIAN GREATS REFLECT ON THE AUSTRIAN MASTERQ&A<br />

Paul E. Robinson<br />

YANNICK<br />

NÉZET-SÉGUIN<br />

WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO BRUCKNER’S MUSIC?<br />

When I first heard a recording of a Bruckner symphony<br />

(No. 4), I didn’t like it... I was 14 at the time.<br />

But soon after, I heard the Ninth Symphony in the<br />

Basilique Notre-Dame (the MSO conducted by<br />

Skrowacewski), and I felt an immediate attraction.<br />

The mystical aspect, the vast proportions<br />

and the spiritual power of Bruckner speak to me<br />

like nothing else in the repertoire.<br />

WHAT ARE THE GREATEST CHALLENGES FOR A<br />

CONDUCTOR IN THE MUSIC OF BRUCKNER?<br />

Obviously, the control of the greater structure. Every<br />

line has a deep, long, horizontal quality, which has<br />

to breathe in a very specific way, and yet it is filled<br />

with a number of accompaniment figures often<br />

based on very simple motives; these are extremely<br />

important to get into place to allow the wonderful<br />

melodies to develop. It is like building extraordinarily<br />

solid pillars, the foundations to a gigantic but<br />

mobile structure, like a beautiful Boeing!<br />

YOU ARE PARTWAY THROUGH A PROJECT TO<br />

CONDUCT AND RECORD ALL THE BRUCKNER<br />

SYMPHONIES IN MONTREAL.<br />

Since I first conducted a Bruckner symphony<br />

(with the Metropolitain<br />

in 2002), I have felt very<br />

close to this music; it<br />

fulfills me as a musician.<br />

It represents to me<br />

the very essence of a<br />

conception of orchestral<br />

playing: every musician<br />

(including the conductor!)<br />

needs to somehow<br />

forget about himself or herself to be part of this<br />

wonderful “whole”... Embarking on this journey<br />

with the Metropolitain is representative of the<br />

in-depth work we have been doing together for<br />

almost ten years now, and with each symphony<br />

we are growing together. We are so lucky to have,<br />

in ATMA, such a wonderful artistic partner:<br />

Johanne Goyette always thinks artistically. We<br />

can freely exchange our musical projects and<br />

dreams, and this is certainly a wonderful one!<br />

HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE BRUCKNER’S<br />

SYMPHONIES?<br />

One major influence is Schubert, especially his last<br />

symphony, with its dimensions, its motivic writing,<br />

its harmony and its bucolic aspect, also very important<br />

in Bruckner’s work. Bruckner’s having been an<br />

organist is fundamental to his writing, with resonance<br />

and acoustical effects always so present.<br />

Like any other great composer, Bruckner was a<br />

visionary, but he was deeply rooted in a tradition,<br />

specifically choral music and organ literature. This<br />

last element is connected to the strong spirituality<br />

of his music, and that creates a very unique blend.<br />

THE FIRST AND THIRD MOVEMENTS OF THE<br />

EIGHTH ARE MARKED ALLEGRO MODERATO, AND<br />

YET IN RECORDINGS CONDUCTORS HAVE TAKEN<br />

VERY DIFFERENT TEMPI FOR THESE MOVEMENTS.<br />

Tempo is something one has to FEEL. If the phrasing<br />

is right, the pulse natural and the balance between<br />

the themes and sections logical, the “Tempo giusto”<br />

will appear. This is a long maturing process,<br />

needing countless hours of studying, meditating,<br />

feeling. And yet, the result may vary because of<br />

many factors: the orchestra, the hall, a different<br />

state of mind... In the case of a Bruckner symphony,<br />

because of the vast proportions, and the relatively<br />

few tempo indications, it is even more difficult to<br />

find an answer to all these questions. But it is also<br />

why I am so attracted to this music, and why it<br />

gives me such a profound experience to share that<br />

love with the musicians and the audience. ■<br />

Yannick Nézet-Séguin conducts Bruckner<br />

> June 15 @ 7:30 p.m.; Place des Arts, Salle Wilfrid-<br />

Pelletier; 514-842-2112, 866-842-2112<br />

> June 17 @ 7:30 p.m.; Église Notre-Dame-des-Sept-<br />

Douleurs; 4155, rue Wellington, > Montréal; 514-765-7150<br />

> June 18 @ 8 p.m.; Cégep Marie-Victorin, Salle Désilets;<br />

7000, rue Marie-Victorin, Montréal; 514-872-9814<br />

> June 22 @ 8 p.m.; Église Saint-Nom-de-Jésus;<br />

4215, rue Adam, Montréal; 514-872-2200<br />

www.orchestremetropolitain.com<br />

RAFFI<br />

ARMENIAN<br />

WHAT WERE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF<br />

YOUR STUDIES IN VIENNA?<br />

I studied voice with my wife Agnes Grossman’s<br />

father Ferdinand, who sang as a child in a chorus<br />

conducted by Bruckner. He told us about how<br />

Bruckner rehearsed. First, he got on his knees<br />

next to the organ and prayed. Then he conducted<br />

the entire rehearsal with his coat on even though<br />

it was summer. At the end he put his hands in his<br />

pockets and brought out sweets and gave them<br />

all to the boys. It is also important to know<br />

Austrian folk music to understand his music,<br />

especially his scherzos. For example, in the scherzo<br />

of the Seventh Symphony the first two beats<br />

must be close together just as they are in the<br />

ländler and in the Viennese waltz. You can’t simply<br />

play the music as written.<br />

YOUR CONDUCTING TEACHER WAS HANS<br />

SWAROWSKY, WHO ALSO TAUGHT CLAUDIO<br />

ABBADO AND ZUBIN MEHTA. WHAT WAS HE LIKE?<br />

He taught me how to interpret the Austro-<br />

Hungarian style. I have chosen this very difficult<br />

symphony for the music camp and the tour, to<br />

give our students this understanding.<br />

WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION IN YOUR EARLY<br />

DAYS AS A CONDUCTOR IN CANADA?<br />

When I first conducted in Canada, I had the impression<br />

people didn’t understand Bruckner’s symphonies<br />

and found them very long. People responded<br />

to the sound of a Mahler symphony but didn’t<br />

understand the music’s tradition. In Bruckner the<br />

sound is not so varied. But in his orchestra he tried<br />

to capture the sound of the organ, the connection<br />

with the Catholic world that meant so much to<br />

him. Again, that picture of Bruckner praying before<br />

he conducted a rehearsal is a picture that haunts<br />

me even though I wasn’t there to see it.<br />

IN THE SEVENTH SYMPHONY—SPECIFICALLY, THE<br />

SECOND MOVEMENT ADAGIO—FOR THE FIRST<br />

TIME, BRUCKNER ADDED THE WAGNER TUBAS<br />

TO HIS ORCHESTRATION. WHY?<br />

Wagner first used these instruments in the Ring<br />

and their use in Bruckner’s Seventh symphony is a<br />

kind of tribute to Wagner. Bruckner wanted the<br />

unique sound of these instruments in his music.<br />

Our students will use Wagner tubas in our performances<br />

of the Seventh. I have also asked our students<br />

to use rotary-valve trumpets, which are used<br />

in Vienna and have a warmer sound than the trumpets<br />

used in North American orchestras, and they<br />

blend with the other brass instruments better. The<br />

Viennese Romantics used the trumpet as a more<br />

lyrical instrument than composers elsewhere.<br />

WHICH EDITION DO YOU USE?<br />

Swarowsky discussed the problems of the various<br />

editions thoroughly in his conducting classes.<br />

Basically, I am using the Novak edition because it<br />

is the most recent and its score is closest to the<br />

manuscript.<br />

THE CYMBAL CRASH WAS APPARENTLY NOT IN<br />

THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT BUT WAS INSERTED<br />

BY BRUCKNER ON A SEPARATE PAGE ON A SUG-<br />

GESTION BY THE CONDUCTOR ARTHUR NIKISCH.<br />

I think it is justified. It is a big question mark.<br />

Perhaps it is a Wagnerian gesture. Perhaps it is<br />

Bruckner’s salute to theatre—Wagner’s kind of<br />

musical theatre. Bruckner was such a humble man.<br />

We don’t know where the influences stopped and<br />

the ego began. Don’t forget that this was a time<br />

when people, including Mahler, didn’t hesitate to<br />

change the music they conducted. But we have a<br />

different attitude today. We are more conscious of<br />

musicological correctness. Nonetheless, we must<br />

go beyond our research to make the music live. ■<br />

Raffi Armenian conducts Bruckner’s Seventh<br />

Symphony as part of a special presentation by the<br />

Conservatoire de musique et d’art dramatique du<br />

Québec. Ninety of the best students from the various<br />

branches of the Conservatoire will form a festival<br />

orchestra. Québec City (June 5), Montréal (June 6),<br />

and Trois Rivières (June 7). conservatoire.gouv.qc.ca<br />

Juin 2009 June 13

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