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NINE<br />

ANARCHISM, INTELLECTUALS<br />

AND THE STAT<br />

(1996)<br />

You were invited to Brazil as a linguistic scholdr by the Brazilian<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong> of Linguists (ABRALIN). Why did you assign some time in your<br />

schedule to get in touch with local social movements?<br />

I always do that. I think it's been 40 years since I've g<strong>on</strong>e anywhere just to<br />

give linguistics talks. I always combine them. In fact, usually I go fo r the<br />

social/political movements and give linguistics talks <strong>on</strong> the side. So, if I give a<br />

talk in the United States to a social justice movement in Colorado or wherever,<br />

it usually takes place under the allspices of the linguistics department and<br />

they cover the travel. There is nothing unusual about this. In fan, the invitati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

came from many groups. So, it's normal.<br />

212<br />

ANARCHISM AND THE STATE<br />

In an article ("Goals and Vi si<strong>on</strong>s'') in your new book Powers and Prospects,<br />

you say that as an anarchist your l<strong>on</strong>g-term goal is to abolish the state, but<br />

your ''short-term goals are to defend and even strengthen elements of state<br />

authority [..] to impede the dedicated efforts to ''roLL back" the progress that<br />

has been achieved in extending democracy and human rights. " What dn you<br />

mean by strengthening the state? Do you mean effective participati<strong>on</strong> in the<br />

state, like votingfor the Democrats or the Partido dos Trabalhadores' If not,<br />

where do you draw the line?<br />

This was a talk to an anarchist c<strong>on</strong>ference, and in my view the libertarian<br />

movemems have been very shortsighted in pursuing doctrine in a rigid fashi<strong>on</strong><br />

without being c<strong>on</strong>cerned about the human c<strong>on</strong>sequences. So it's perfectly<br />

proper .. .! mean, in my view, and that of a few others, the state is an illegitimate<br />

instituti<strong>on</strong>. But it does nO{ follow from that that you should not suppOrt<br />

the state. Sometimes there is a more illegitimate instituti<strong>on</strong> which will take<br />

over if you do not support this illegitimate instituti<strong>on</strong>. So, if you're c<strong>on</strong>cemed<br />

with the people, let's be c<strong>on</strong>crete, let's take the United States. There is a state<br />

sector that does awful things, but it also happens to do some good things. As<br />

a result of centuries of extensive popular struggle there is a minimal welfare sys-

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