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1459 Oral Answers 26 MARCH 2013 Oral Answers 1460 T9. [149778] Ian Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab): My constituent’s adult son has spina bifida. He keeps his wheelchairs in his spare box room and will lose £14 a week as a result of the bedroom tax. Is that in accordance with Liberal Democrat principles? The Deputy Prime Minister: As I say, we have made a number of changes already to the detail of the spare room subsidy. We have provided a considerable amount of extra money for discretionary housing payments. Councils, including the council of the hon. Gentleman’s constituent, have discretion to use that money and to change the way the policy is adapted in practice. However, we will, of course, look at these difficult cases, work with councils and, if we need to, further adapt the way in which the policy is implemented. Andrew Stunell (Hazel Grove) (LD): I thoroughly welcome what my right hon. Friend said about city deals. Will he take note of the governance model for Greater Manchester, and does he recognise the value of a system that does not have a big mayoral figure? The Deputy Prime Minister: I do not know which big mayoral figure my right hon. Friend might be thinking of, but I agree with him about the model of co-operation between local authorities of different political persuasions in Greater Manchester, which operates under the city deal system. Greater Manchester is pioneering the earn-back system, where Greater Manchester will be able to keep more revenue for infrastructure investment in the local area to the benefit of the people in Greater Manchester. That may prove to be a model that others seek to emulate elsewhere. T10. [149779] Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab): The Deputy Prime Minister will be aware that independent researchers have concluded that the Budget and recent welfare reforms will substantially increase child poverty and material deprivation among children. Is he proud of that? The Deputy Prime Minister: As the hon. Lady will know, we have set out some ideas on child poverty. In addition to the existing poverty targets, which we are duty-bound to seek to meet, we have tried to ensure that the factors that hold back children from fulfilling their potential—whether it is poor housing or poor education— are addressed through measures such as the pupil premium; there is £2.5 billion of extra money to help the most deprived children in school. In addition, as of this September, the Government are making 15 hours of free pre-school support available to two-year-olds from the most deprived families, something that her Government never delivered. Zac Goldsmith (Richmond Park) (Con): The Deputy Prime Minister said that he wants to see cross-party consensus on solutions to the airport capacity issue, so can he explain why he and his party have welcomed the re-inclusion of Heathrow into the Davies commission, given that his party had already ruled it out for ever? Surely that means he risks wasting an awful lot of money and everyone’s time. The Deputy Prime Minister: My hon. Friend rightly says that I and my party are not persuaded at all of the case for Heathrow expansion, but equally we should not seek, and no party on either side of the House should seek, to tie the hands of the independent commission looking at this issue in the round. We will await with interest, as I guess everybody will, the results of the interim report of Howard Davies’s commission and its final report after the next general election. T13. [149783] Michael Connarty (Linlithgow and East Falkirk) (Lab): Given the Deputy Prime Minister’s feeble response to the question from the shadow Deputy Prime Minister, in which he gave no safeguards that people, including people from abroad, will not be able to buy second homes with the mortgage subsidy, can he deal with two other problems? First, all the analysts say that this measure will create a housing bubble and inflate house prices. Secondly, it will trap many people who would not otherwise get on to the housing market in sub-prime mortgages that they cannot afford in the long run. The Deputy Prime Minister: One would have thought that a party that crashed the economy, sucked up to the banks and let them get away with blue murder, and presided over a massive housing boom and bust would have a hint, a note of contrition in its questions about the housing market. Why does the hon. Gentleman want to deprive his constituents of the ability to get their feet on the first rung of the property ladder? Why does he want to deprive young families who want to have a home they can call their own of the ability to do so? Instead of constantly carping about our attempts to fix the mess he and his colleagues left behind, perhaps for once he should come up with some ideas of his own. Neil Carmichael (Stroud) (Con): Does the Deputy Prime Minister agree that the measures in the coalition’s Budget for small and medium-sized businesses, including introducing the business bank, changes to national insurance and the industrial strategy, all add up to a massive confidence boost for the small business sector? That is great news for our economy, and we should be right behind those measures. The Deputy Prime Minister: I agree with my hon. Friend. Of course, we all know that times are very difficult and that the British economy is taking time to heal. That is why it is a great tribute to the Chancellor and his team that in the Budget we have none the less found measures that will take 2 million people on low pay out of paying income tax altogether, that will give small employers and businesses around the country £2,000 off to allow them to employ more people, and that included £1 billion extra for the aerospace industry. It means that people will not face the higher petrol and fuel prices they would have faced under Labour, and it has got rid of the beer escalator and made sure that we ease the squeeze on household budgets. Mr David Winnick (Walsall North) (Lab): Given that the Deputy Prime Minister has changed his mind on cash bonds for some visitors coming to the UK—a very different policy from the one he advocated in his Opposition days—could he put in the Library a list of the items he believed in and argued for before the election, but which he no longer believes in and, indeed, has totally changed his position on?

1461 Oral Answers 26 MARCH 2013 Oral Answers 1462 The Deputy Prime Minister: What I would put in the Library, if the hon. Gentleman wishes, is the fact that the last Labour Government removed exit controls on our borders, so they had no idea who was leaving this country and who was coming in. The reason why we can pilot the so-called security bonds for people coming here on temporary visas is that, unlike his Government, we are reinstalling the exit checks that we have been campaigning—as Liberal Democrats and now in government—to reinstall for many years. Stephen Metcalfe (South Basildon and East Thurrock) (Con): Business growth in Basildon and Thurrock, supported by Essex county council, is three times higher than the regional average. Does my right hon. Friend therefore agree that the recently introduced employment allowance will encourage those new businesses to take on their first, or an additional, employee, thus supporting both businesses and those seeking work? The Deputy Prime Minister: I agree with my hon. Friend. This new employer’s allowance is a very exciting way of encouraging small and medium-sized businesses, which are the backbone of the British economy, to take on more people. When it comes into effect it will mean that a small employer will be able to employ someone on up to about £22,000 without paying any national insurance whatsoever. Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op): Did the Deputy Prime Minister have any hand in the air-sea rescue helicopter service being sold off or given to a Texan company rather than to the British Navy and Air Force? Is he responsible for that? Does he approve of it, as it seems a rather strange decision? The Deputy Prime Minister: I do if the service is better and if the Department for Transport, which has run this tender, is clearly persuaded that this is the best way to ensure the safety and security of the British people in the future and to do so at the best value for taxpayers’ money. Those are precisely the criteria on which everyone—any reasonable person—would judge this decision. Andrew George (St Ives) (LD): Cornwall may not look like a city but, as my right hon. Friend knows, it has both the ambition and the building blocks to negotiate a deal with the Government on devolved powers. Will he ensure that those ambitions can be fast-tracked to reality? The Deputy Prime Minister: My hon. Friend has been a tireless campaigner, with his Cornish colleagues, for emulating the idea of a city deal but adapting it for the needs of Cornwall, now and in the future. I applaud him for that, and I will make sure that he and his colleagues can meet the Minister for cities and decentralisation, to make the case directly for a bespoke deal for Cornwall at some point in the future. Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) (Lab): Is there any chance that the announcements made about the housing package in last week’s Budget could create a housing bubble here in the UK and risk repeating the mistakes of the United States sub-prime market? The Deputy Prime Minister: The key way to make sure that there is no repeat of the disastrous mismanagement of the housing market that we saw under the previous Government is to ensure that more homes are built. That is why one significant component of the Help to Buy announcement that the Chancellor made last week is precisely that Government equity being put towards the construction of new homes should lead to extra construction activity and a further supply of housing. The Budget also included an announcement of a further 15,000 social homes being built, in addition to the several thousand more that are already in the pipeline. Several hon. Members rose— Mr Speaker: Order. We had 23 questions in that period but we must now move on. ATTORNEY-GENERAL The Attorney-General was asked— Rule of Law 1. Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab): What recent representations he has received on the effect of membership of the European convention on human rights on the UK’s reputation for upholding the rule of law. [149745] The Attorney-General (Mr Dominic Grieve): Ihave not received any recent representations on this subject, but I am clear that the United Kingdom’s enviable reputation for upholding the rule of law is closely linked to our country’s commitment to the European convention on human rights and to ensuring that those rights are enshrined in our own laws. Yasmin Qureshi: I thank the Attorney-General for that answer. Some Government Members are talking about exiting the European convention on human rights. Will he assure us that that will not happen? I know that he believes in the convention, so may I tell him that he will have the support of Opposition Members in the battle to ensure that we remain in it? The Attorney-General: I have noticed, on occasion, irritation in all parts of the House about the operation of the European convention on human rights, but the Government’s position remains clear: our adherence to the convention is in the national interest. Mr Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con): Is it not possible to be proud that this country created the European convention on human rights in 1948 to counter communism and fascism while also being dismayed that, because of judicial activism, the Court is interfering in the rights of this democratic Assembly to come to its own conclusions on issues such as prisoner voting rights? The Attorney-General: My hon. Friend is right to say that the United Kingdom has not been uncritical of the way in which the European Court of Human Rights has operated. That is why we initiated the negotiation

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Oral Answers<br />

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The Deputy Prime Minister: What I would put in the<br />

Library, if the hon. Gentleman wishes, is the fact that<br />

the last Labour Government removed exit controls on<br />

our borders, so they had no idea who was leaving this<br />

country and who was coming in. The reason why we<br />

can pilot the so-called security bonds for people coming<br />

here on temporary visas is that, unlike his Government,<br />

we are reinstalling the exit checks that we have been<br />

campaigning—as Liberal Democrats and now in<br />

government—to reinstall for many years.<br />

Stephen Metcalfe (South Basildon and East Thurrock)<br />

(Con): Business growth in Basildon and Thurrock,<br />

supported by Essex county council, is three times higher<br />

than the regional average. Does my right hon. Friend<br />

therefore agree that the recently introduced employment<br />

allowance will encourage those new businesses to take<br />

on their first, or an additional, employee, thus supporting<br />

both businesses and those seeking work?<br />

The Deputy Prime Minister: I agree with my hon.<br />

Friend. This new employer’s allowance is a very exciting<br />

way of encouraging small and medium-sized businesses,<br />

which are the backbone of the British economy, to take<br />

on more people. When it comes into effect it will mean<br />

that a small employer will be able to employ someone<br />

on up to about £22,000 without paying any national<br />

insurance whatsoever.<br />

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op): Did<br />

the Deputy Prime Minister have any hand in the air-sea<br />

rescue helicopter service being sold off or given to a<br />

Texan company rather than to the British Navy and Air<br />

Force? Is he responsible for that? Does he approve of it,<br />

as it seems a rather strange decision?<br />

The Deputy Prime Minister: I do if the service is<br />

better and if the Department for Transport, which has<br />

run this tender, is clearly persuaded that this is the best<br />

way to ensure the safety and security of the British<br />

people in the future and to do so at the best value for<br />

taxpayers’ money. Those are precisely the criteria on<br />

which everyone—any reasonable person—would judge<br />

this decision.<br />

Andrew George (St Ives) (LD): Cornwall may not<br />

look like a city but, as my right hon. Friend knows, it<br />

has both the ambition and the building blocks to negotiate<br />

a deal with the Government on devolved powers. Will<br />

he ensure that those ambitions can be fast-tracked to<br />

reality?<br />

The Deputy Prime Minister: My hon. Friend has been<br />

a tireless campaigner, with his Cornish colleagues, for<br />

emulating the idea of a city deal but adapting it for the<br />

needs of Cornwall, now and in the future. I applaud him<br />

for that, and I will make sure that he and his colleagues<br />

can meet the Minister for cities and decentralisation, to<br />

make the case directly for a bespoke deal for Cornwall<br />

at some point in the future.<br />

Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) (Lab): Is there any chance<br />

that the announcements made about the housing package<br />

in last week’s Budget could create a housing bubble<br />

here in the UK and risk repeating the mistakes of the<br />

<strong>United</strong> States sub-prime market?<br />

The Deputy Prime Minister: The key way to make<br />

sure that there is no repeat of the disastrous mismanagement<br />

of the housing market that we saw under the previous<br />

Government is to ensure that more homes are built.<br />

That is why one significant component of the Help to<br />

Buy announcement that the Chancellor made last week<br />

is precisely that Government equity being put towards<br />

the construction of new homes should lead to extra<br />

construction activity and a further supply of housing.<br />

The Budget also included an announcement of a further<br />

15,000 social homes being built, in addition to the<br />

several thousand more that are already in the pipeline.<br />

Several hon. Members rose—<br />

Mr Speaker: Order. We had 23 questions in that<br />

period but we must now move on.<br />

ATTORNEY-GENERAL<br />

The Attorney-General was asked—<br />

Rule of Law<br />

1. Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab): What<br />

recent representations he has received on the effect of<br />

membership of the European convention on human<br />

rights on the UK’s reputation for upholding the rule of<br />

law. [149745]<br />

The Attorney-General (Mr Dominic Grieve): Ihave<br />

not received any recent representations on this subject,<br />

but I am clear that the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong>’s enviable<br />

reputation for upholding the rule of law is closely linked<br />

to our country’s commitment to the European convention<br />

on human rights and to ensuring that those rights are<br />

enshrined in our own laws.<br />

Yasmin Qureshi: I thank the Attorney-General for<br />

that answer. Some Government Members are talking<br />

about exiting the European convention on human rights.<br />

Will he assure us that that will not happen? I know that<br />

he believes in the convention, so may I tell him that he<br />

will have the support of Opposition Members in the<br />

battle to ensure that we remain in it?<br />

The Attorney-General: I have noticed, on occasion,<br />

irritation in all parts of the House about the operation<br />

of the European convention on human rights, but the<br />

Government’s position remains clear: our adherence to<br />

the convention is in the national interest.<br />

Mr Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con): Is it not<br />

possible to be proud that this country created the European<br />

convention on human rights in 1948 to counter communism<br />

and fascism while also being dismayed that, because of<br />

judicial activism, the Court is interfering in the rights of<br />

this democratic Assembly to come to its own conclusions<br />

on issues such as prisoner voting rights?<br />

The Attorney-General: My hon. Friend is right to say<br />

that the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> has not been uncritical of the<br />

way in which the European Court of Human Rights<br />

has operated. That is why we initiated the negotiation

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