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1585 Easter Adjournment<br />

26 MARCH 2013 Easter Adjournment<br />

1586<br />

see more people from the Chamber today and from<br />

outside the House travelling to my constituency to<br />

enjoy a rich culture and beautiful scenery.<br />

Mr Jeffrey M. Donaldson (Lagan Valley) (DUP): I<br />

am enjoying my hon. Friend’s contribution, but on a<br />

serious note, the 100th anniversary of the first world<br />

war will soon be coming up. Will he acknowledge that,<br />

during the great war, Ulster Scots played a role with<br />

great heroism as part of the wider British Army? One<br />

thinks particularly of the battle of the Somme.<br />

Jim Shannon: I thank my right hon. Friend for that<br />

intervention. Yes, our heritage is not just cultural but<br />

historical. We fought alongside and within the British<br />

Army at the battle of the Somme, and we commemorate<br />

that contribution of our soldiers every 1 July. The<br />

history stories that I was taught as a boy are so important<br />

to me and to us as a nation because of our contribution<br />

and our heroism and courage. Young boys of 16 and<br />

17 told lies about their age to join the Army and<br />

contribute at the battle of the Somme—I was going to<br />

say the battle of the Boyne, but that would be going too<br />

far back.<br />

We Ulster Scots are very proud to have beautiful<br />

scenery, a rich culture and the warmest of people, who<br />

are anxious to welcome others to our heart and heritage.<br />

I invite all Members to Strangford to discover our<br />

Ulster Scots heritage, and I look forward to seeing<br />

them.<br />

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE<br />

Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing<br />

Order No. 15),<br />

That, at this day’s sitting, the matters to be raised before the<br />

forthcoming adjournment may be proceeded with, though opposed,<br />

until 8.00 pm.—(Mr Evennett.)<br />

Question agreed to.<br />

7pm<br />

Mr Mark Williams (Ceredigion) (LD): I want to<br />

address the issue of the mis-selling of interest rate<br />

swaps by commercial banks and to ask in particular<br />

why tailored business loans—or fixed-rate loans with<br />

embedded or hidden swaps—are not included in the<br />

Financial Services Authority’s review. This issue took<br />

up a whole Back-Bench debate last June and I know<br />

that we will return to it.<br />

The pilots of the FSA’s review into interest rate swaps<br />

revealed evidence that up to 90% of products had been<br />

mis-sold by commercial banks, but the question is: why<br />

is the review not looking at TBLs? Many businesses in<br />

my constituency and, I would hazard a guess, across the<br />

whole country are affected by them. We need a review<br />

of those products if our constituents and business<br />

people are to have any chance of redress.<br />

TBLs are remarkably similar to other interest rate<br />

swap products: they involve exorbitant exit fees for the<br />

businesses concerned, profits are booked immediately<br />

to the banks and there are huge incentives to sell them<br />

to customers. When the all-party group on interest rate<br />

swap mis-selling, ably chaired by the hon. Member for<br />

Aberconwy (Guto Bebb), met last December, Clive<br />

Adamson of the FSA told us:<br />

“If there is no understanding of break costs given to the<br />

customer and if there was a poor disclosure of exit cost, then it<br />

was highly likely that there was a mis-sale”.<br />

Yet on the grounds of a mere technicality, TBLs, which<br />

are fixed-rate loans, will not be included in the FSA<br />

review. That is unjust nonsense.<br />

I can best illustrate that point by referring to two<br />

businesses in Aberystwyth in my Ceredigion constituency.<br />

First, Huw and Jackie Roberts of Minhafan Estates<br />

Property Development took out a £750,000 quaintly<br />

named vanilla swap over 10 years, which Barclays bank<br />

referred to as a “simple swap”. The breakage clause to<br />

get out of that agreement is £155,000 and their business<br />

is included in the FSA review. Secondly, the Beechey<br />

family who run the Black Lion pub in Aberystwyth<br />

took out a £750,000 fixed-rate loan—a TBL with embedded<br />

swap—over 15 years with Clydesdale and Yorkshire<br />

bank. Their breakage fees are £200,000, but the business<br />

is not included in the review. Both of those businesses<br />

are in the same constituency and suffering severe financial<br />

distress, yet one is in the review and the other is not.<br />

Both were involved in a trade call with an FSA-regulated<br />

derivatives expert when the hedging product was sold.<br />

For 12 years the FSA has worked on the assumption<br />

of a principle-based system of regulation. The results of<br />

January’s pilots found that poor disclosure of break<br />

costs was one of the most significant issues in assessing<br />

compliance. However, banks such as Clydesdale and<br />

Yorkshire are telling customers that they have no legal<br />

or regulatory obligation to inform customers who have<br />

been sold a fixed-rate and that they have no redress

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