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1547 Flood Insurance 26 MARCH 2013 1548 [Mr Raab] Resolved, That this House notes the Environment Agency’s estimate that 570,000 properties in England and Wales are at significant risk of flooding; recognises the efforts of the insurance industry and past and present governments to reach agreement to ensure flood insurance will be made available to all homes and small businesses beyond June 2013; calls on the insurance industry to negotiate in good faith to conclude those arrangements; and further calls on the Government to acknowledge the need to provide some support for those arrangements and ensure that resilience and adaptation to flood risks and other natural hazards are amongst its highest environmental priorities. Easter Adjournment Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House has considered matters to be raised before the forthcoming Adjournment.—(Mr Amess.) DEPARTMENT FOR COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT 4.46 pm Stephen Pound (Ealing North) (Lab): I am extremely grateful for this opportunity to ventilate the important issue of housing. A number of my colleagues applied, successfully, to speak on this subject as it is of intense importance to us. Although I and many of my colleagues are London MPs, we do not claim for a second that the housing crisis is unique to our capital city. The hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) has a housing waiting list of nearly 3,000 in his idyllic constituency. This problem affects all of us. The housing situation in London has gone beyond inconvenience, awkwardness or even embarrassment to something that it is now in a profound state of crisis. In Ealing, the borough in which I have spent virtually all my life, we have 23,416 people on the housing waiting list and there is no chance whatever of them finally finding accommodation. One reason for that is that in London the average house price is £421,395, and the average London income is £26,962. Even in dear, dear Ealing, the average house price is £374,707, whereas medium earnings are £25,392. Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/ Co-op): Does my hon. Friend think that the Government’s recent proposals in the Budget to provide cheap mortgages to anyone will help the situation? Stephen Pound: My hon. Friend makes a telling point. In doing so she has rather stolen my thunder, but I forgive her in that as I do in all things. The Government may well have a policy, but it is retrogressive. The idea that the solution to the housing problem in London is to sell off the last few remaining properties at vast, eye-watering discounts and somehow assume that, in extremis, property can be sold as cheaply as £10,000, and that that money will then go forth, multiply and create a new property, is absolutely absurd. The other strand of that—somehow to blame the whole housing crisis in London on the immigrant community—proves once and for all that it is a lot easier to find a scapegoat than to find a solution. The scapegoat is being identified; the solution is not. Boroughs such as mine in Ealing are having to take incredibly exhaustive steps to build houses. We have a commitment to 500 new build houses over the next five years, but we also have an estate regeneration programme. We are using existing land to increase the estates that already exist, so that with hard work—exhaustive work— and a great deal of extremely fine officer time, we can create 5,044 units from a total of 3,653. I pay tribute to my colleague Councillor Hitesh Tailor in the London borough of Ealing, who has somehow managed to square the circle in the case of Copley close, an absolutely typical old Greater London council estate. Allegedly—I have never heard anyone disprove this, but I am told it is true—the architect who designed the estate never set

1549 Easter Adjournment 26 MARCH 2013 Easter Adjournment 1550 foot in the borough of Ealing, let alone on Copley close. She took the scheme down from a shelf somewhere, ran it along the side of the railway line at Castle Bar Halt and left the people to get on with it. That is the scale of the problem we face. What is the solution? On the figures I gave earlier for median house prices, the solution is not to unleash some great entrepreneurial surge or for everyone somehow to manage to do 15 jobs and buy their own property. One of the solutions is to do as my children, aged 24 and 22, have done and start sending away for loft extension catalogues anonymously. They pour through the door at an extraordinary rate—and I have finally accepted the hint. However, one thing we really can do—I want the Minister to give particular attention to this—is to consider raising the housing revenue account cap, which was discussed in the other place on 12 March in a debate on the Growth and Infrastructure Bill. Three amendments were tabled by three distinguished Members of the upper House, all with considerable local authority experience. The idea at present is that there are streams against which local authorities can borrow, and not just the traditional ones, such as the Public Works Loan Board or the general fund. Some people have rather imaginatively —and in a way that is almost suggestive of Robert Maxwell in his prime—talked about borrowing against pension funds. That slightly worries me, but the housing revenue account, which has traditionally been massively in surplus, despite what some would have us believe, is a good thing to borrow against. The recent relaxations in this area are to the Government’s credit. Let us be honest: the Government have done the right thing on that. However, the present cap limits local authorities massively. They include not just boroughs such as Kensington and Chelsea, Westminster, and Hammersmith and Fulham, which have a property portfolio worth well over £2 billion, but even small, modest boroughs such as Ealing, which could borrow more and build more. Ultimately, let us never lose sight of first principles. A person who has no home has no hope, no job, usually no family and certainly no future. If someone loses their home, they lose everything. A person can lose their job and get another job; they can lose their health and get healthy again. Without a home, a person has nothing. Every single one of us in this House has a bounden duty to try to provide that simple, most basic of needs: accommodation. Raising the HRA cap to a more realistic level would give local authorities the power to do much, much more. 4.53 pm Andrew Bingham (High Peak) (Con): Carbon monoxide poisoning can be fatal or lead to permanent health damage. Carbon monoxide is tasteless, odourless and colourless. It is very much a silent killer. It makes no distinction among its victims—however, the young and the elderly are more vulnerable, as in many other cases—and it creates risks for pregnant women and their unborn children. The symptoms include headaches, tiredness, dizziness and nausea. These are common symptoms, often associated with other things; therefore, carbon monoxide poisoning can go unnoticed for many years. The recent “Carbon Monoxide Incident Report”, published by the Gas Safety Trust, shows a welcome reduction in the incidence of carbon monoxide poisoning. However, the report deals only with the gas industry and gas-related incidents. Carbon monoxide poisoning is not solely a gas appliance issue. Carbon monoxide can emanate from many sources. It is caused when carbon fuels do not burn properly, so although there is a perception that the problem is restricted to gas fires in the home, it can go much wider than that. Any fuel-burning appliance that is not properly maintained has the potential to be a source of carbon monoxide. Cookers, AGAs and hot water heaters can all emit carbon monoxide. At this stage I would like to refer to my constituents Dave and Mary Jane Worswick. Their daughter Mary Ann was 15 years old. She was in her last year of school and dreamt of going on to study law. Owing to bad weather, she was studying at her friend’s house, in which there was a boiler that subsequently proved to be faulty. This fault was to cost Mary Ann and her friend their lives. I do not want to dwell on the subsequent legal processes that followed Mary Ann’s death, but I do want to pay tribute to Mr and Mrs Worswick who, having tragically lost their daughter, have continued their fight to raise the awareness of the dangers of carbon monoxide. As the Worswicks say to me, everyone is aware of the dangers of tobacco and alcohol, but awareness of carbon monoxide remains low and way behind. The opportunity to raise the matter today will, I hope, help raise the awareness of this killer among us. I want to highlight a further particular area where carbon monoxide can be fatal. My High Peak constituency is under about 12 feet of snow at the moment; it may seem odd, but I would like to raise the issue of camping, caravanning and barbecues. In a short while when the snow goes, I hope people will turn their thoughts to the summertime pursuits I have listed. As we sit outside a tent, caravan or motor home watching the sun go down in the summer, there is naturally a feeling of contentment, and possibly a barbecue shimmering in front of us, but we should be aware that this smouldering barbecue could be putting out carbon monoxide. Portable barbecues and portable heaters can and have been responsible for tragic deaths in campervans, caravans and mobile homes across the country. In Cornwall, Shropshire and other areas, tragedies have resulted from carbon monoxide emissions from this sort of appliance. Carbon monoxide poisoning is widely thought of as an issue caused by appliances in the home and in the winter. That is not true, as it has claimed victims in the summer months, too. As summer approaches, I want to highlight the dangers of this gas—not just in the home, not just in the winter, but all year round and seemingly in some innocuous conditions. Returning to the issue of carbon monoxide in the home, the Minister may well ask me what he can do. Over the years, numerous measures such as the removal of open-flued heaters from bathrooms and bedrooms and some landlord legislation have reduced the risks. The number of incidents is falling, but that is no reason for complacency. We heard last week that the Chancellor has announced some excellent measures to help people to buy new build homes. The Minister himself has advocated the building of more homes that are needed across the country. May I ask him today to consider making mandatory the inclusion of carbon monoxide detectors in all new build homes? I understand that there are concerns about increasing burdens on house builders in these difficult

1547 Flood Insurance<br />

26 MARCH 2013<br />

1548<br />

[Mr Raab]<br />

Resolved,<br />

That this House notes the Environment Agency’s estimate that<br />

570,000 properties in England and Wales are at significant risk of<br />

flooding; recognises the efforts of the insurance industry and past<br />

and present governments to reach agreement to ensure flood<br />

insurance will be made available to all homes and small businesses<br />

beyond June 2013; calls on the insurance industry to negotiate in<br />

good faith to conclude those arrangements; and further calls on<br />

the Government to acknowledge the need to provide some support<br />

for those arrangements and ensure that resilience and adaptation<br />

to flood risks and other natural hazards are amongst its highest<br />

environmental priorities.<br />

Easter Adjournment<br />

Motion made, and Question proposed,<br />

That this House has considered matters to be raised before the<br />

forthcoming Adjournment.—(Mr Amess.)<br />

DEPARTMENT FOR COMMUNITIES AND<br />

LOCAL GOVERNMENT<br />

4.46 pm<br />

Stephen Pound (Ealing North) (Lab): I am extremely<br />

grateful for this opportunity to ventilate the important<br />

issue of housing. A number of my colleagues applied,<br />

successfully, to speak on this subject as it is of intense<br />

importance to us. Although I and many of my colleagues<br />

are London MPs, we do not claim for a second that the<br />

housing crisis is unique to our capital city. The hon.<br />

Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) has a housing<br />

waiting list of nearly 3,000 in his idyllic constituency.<br />

This problem affects all of us.<br />

The housing situation in London has gone beyond<br />

inconvenience, awkwardness or even embarrassment to<br />

something that it is now in a profound state of crisis. In<br />

Ealing, the borough in which I have spent virtually all<br />

my life, we have 23,416 people on the housing waiting<br />

list and there is no chance whatever of them finally<br />

finding accommodation. One reason for that is that in<br />

London the average house price is £421,395, and the<br />

average London income is £26,962. Even in dear, dear<br />

Ealing, the average house price is £374,707, whereas<br />

medium earnings are £25,392.<br />

Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/<br />

Co-op): Does my hon. Friend think that the Government’s<br />

recent proposals in the Budget to provide cheap mortgages<br />

to anyone will help the situation?<br />

Stephen Pound: My hon. Friend makes a telling point.<br />

In doing so she has rather stolen my thunder, but I<br />

forgive her in that as I do in all things. The Government<br />

may well have a policy, but it is retrogressive. The idea<br />

that the solution to the housing problem in London is<br />

to sell off the last few remaining properties at vast,<br />

eye-watering discounts and somehow assume that, in<br />

extremis, property can be sold as cheaply as £10,000,<br />

and that that money will then go forth, multiply and<br />

create a new property, is absolutely absurd. The other<br />

strand of that—somehow to blame the whole housing<br />

crisis in London on the immigrant community—proves<br />

once and for all that it is a lot easier to find a scapegoat<br />

than to find a solution. The scapegoat is being identified;<br />

the solution is not.<br />

Boroughs such as mine in Ealing are having to take<br />

incredibly exhaustive steps to build houses. We have a<br />

commitment to 500 new build houses over the next five<br />

years, but we also have an estate regeneration programme.<br />

We are using existing land to increase the estates that<br />

already exist, so that with hard work—exhaustive work—<br />

and a great deal of extremely fine officer time, we can<br />

create 5,044 units from a total of 3,653. I pay tribute to<br />

my colleague Councillor Hitesh Tailor in the London<br />

borough of Ealing, who has somehow managed to<br />

square the circle in the case of Copley close, an absolutely<br />

typical old Greater London council estate. Allegedly—I<br />

have never heard anyone disprove this, but I am told it is<br />

true—the architect who designed the estate never set

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