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1545 Flood Insurance<br />

26 MARCH 2013<br />

Flood Insurance<br />

1546<br />

Mr Smith: The Minister said earlier that he was<br />

impatient to share information with the House. Can he<br />

tell us what the Government’s sticking point—their<br />

fundamental problem—is with the “Flood Re” proposal?<br />

Richard Benyon: I will come on to that.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff North (Jonathan<br />

Evans) talked about flood insurance in the context of<br />

terrorism, but those are entirely different types of insurance.<br />

The pool model does work for some of them, but the<br />

“Flood Re” model would not work in this case, because<br />

it does not provide support for the cost of that cover.<br />

He made the point that “Flood Re” is a not-for-profit<br />

solution. Well, yes and no, in that the Government<br />

would pay through a levy—so householders are paying<br />

for it with an element of underwriting—but taking<br />

away risk from the most at risk is an advantage to the<br />

industry. So we must be very careful. The Minister’s job<br />

is to look after the taxpayer and householder. Yes, we<br />

need a solution, but not at any price. Whoever was<br />

standing at the Dispatch Box, they would not want to<br />

bring before the House a deal that was unworkable or<br />

that would cause the wrong sort of increases for some<br />

of the most at risk and hard up of our constituents. We<br />

need to get this right.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Portsmouth North<br />

(Penny Mordaunt) made a point about farmland and<br />

the wider risk. When farmland is flooded as part of a<br />

formal flood alleviation scheme, the landowner is<br />

compensated.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Esher and Walton<br />

introduced the debate with a powerful speech. He made<br />

a point about the governance of any arrangements. He<br />

was right to do so, and it is important that we take<br />

forward his concerns and make those arrangements<br />

clear in the announcement. I can assure him that the<br />

Department for Communities and Local Government<br />

and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural<br />

Affairs are working closely.<br />

I was concerned that the hon. Member for West<br />

Lancashire (Rosie Cooper) talked about shambolic local<br />

flood administration in her constituency. We have<br />

implemented the Flood and Water Management Act<br />

2010, which arose from Sir Michael Pitt’s recommendations<br />

after 2007. I note that she said that that is not happening<br />

in her constituency, and I am happy to take that up.<br />

Many hon. Members made good points, which I<br />

could probably summarise as, “We want a decision and<br />

an announcement soon, because our constituents are<br />

worried.” I can understand that. We are doing other<br />

things to help those who might be struggling to find<br />

affordable insurance. We have published a guide to<br />

obtaining flood insurance in high flood risk areas in<br />

collaboration with the National Flood Forum, Which?<br />

and insurance industry representatives. The guide helps<br />

people navigate through the insurance market and acts<br />

as a signpost to actions that individuals can take to<br />

reduce their flood risk.<br />

Insurance can be found for reasonable prices if people<br />

talk to their insurer about their specific circumstances.<br />

The Environment Agency can provide supporting evidence<br />

on the local flood risk, for free, which people can use in<br />

discussions, and I want to hear from hon. Members if<br />

that is not happening. Different companies take different<br />

approaches to flood risk and it almost always pays to<br />

shop around.<br />

I recognise the great concern on both sides of the<br />

House on this matter. I want to give hon. Members and<br />

their constituents the assurance that they want, but I<br />

will not do it at any price. Yes, it has taken longer than<br />

any of us would have wished, but I hope that the deal<br />

we bring to the House will be better than what we have<br />

now, especially for those of our constituents who are on<br />

low incomes.<br />

4.43 pm<br />

Mr Raab: I thank the Backbench Committee for this<br />

debate, and I thank all hon. Members who have contributed<br />

for their excellent speeches. Some of them talked about<br />

the local dimension and some mentioned the national<br />

implications of these issues. Given the lack of time, I<br />

will not go into detail on all of the contributions, but<br />

the hon. Member for West Lancashire (Rosie Cooper)<br />

talked about the lack of a joined-up approach locally.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Oxford West and<br />

Abingdon (Nicola Blackwood) talked about the human<br />

dimension to local flood damage and the importance of<br />

planning in the mitigation of flood risk.<br />

The hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North<br />

(Diana Johnson), my hon. Friend the Member for West<br />

Aberdeenshire and Kincardine (Sir Robert Smith) and<br />

the hon. Member for Wansbeck (Ian Lavery) talked<br />

about the local aspects of flood insurance.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for York Outer (Julian<br />

Sturdy) made an important point about what local<br />

community initiatives can do to reduce flood risk, and<br />

my hon. Friend the Member for South East Cornwall<br />

(Sheryll Murray) highlighted the human toll across<br />

Cornwall. I am sure the whole House joins her in<br />

expressing our condolences to the bereaved family of<br />

her constituent.<br />

There were other powerful contributions. My hon.<br />

Friend the Member for Cardiff North (Jonathan Evans)<br />

made a powerful speech on his work with the all-party<br />

group. My hon. Friend the Member for Portsmouth<br />

North (Penny Mordaunt) talked about the problem of<br />

planning approvals in the flood plain. Other hon. Members<br />

were unable to attend the debate—for example, my hon.<br />

Friend the Member for Brigg and Goole (Andrew Percy)—<br />

but have expressed support for the motion, and I welcome<br />

that.<br />

The shadow Minister gave an important speech. He<br />

tracked the recent negotiations with a fine-toothed comb,<br />

if, at points, rather selectively. He had rather less to say<br />

on the previous Government’s progress, but none the<br />

less made some important points.<br />

The Minister described the arduous and urgent<br />

negotiations with the ABI and the importance of delivering<br />

a legal, workable deal that delivers value for money. I<br />

am sure the whole House joins him in wanting to<br />

achieve that result. We do not expect him to negotiate in<br />

public, but we do need urgently to deliver a new deal on<br />

flood insurance. We need to strengthen flood defences,<br />

address the planning failures of the past and ensure that<br />

UK environmental policies place a greater emphasis on<br />

resilience and adaptation in the future. I commend the<br />

motion to the House.<br />

Question put and agreed to.

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