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1531 Flood Insurance 26 MARCH 2013 Flood Insurance 1532 John Glen (Salisbury) (Con): My constituent Sarah McKerlie told me just a few days ago that the sale of her property has fallen through three times because of the ambiguous risk. The current uncertainty is leading to irrational behaviour that does not necessarily relate to insurability. This uncertainty needs to end, so that people can sell their properties. It is a real blight and is causing major distress to many people. Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. I have a number of constituents in the same boat who bring the same concerns to me. Given that the statement of principles comes to an end in June, the future looks very uncertain for many of my constituents and those of Members throughout the House, so I welcome the motion today. I want to focus on a village in my constituency situated to the south of York, on the banks of the River Ouse. Large parts of Naburn are at a significant risk of flooding. Late last year, I was contacted by a Naburn resident who informed me that, over the past 37 years, his property has been badly flooded on four separate occasions. In the six months since last autumn’s terrible wet weather, some homes in Naburn have been flooded numerous times. Thankfully, the people of Naburn have a strong sense of community spirit. They are Yorkshire folk, after all, and they are starting to pull together to do all they can to reduce their collective flood risk. Following a public meeting in the village in November, the parish council and a group of interested residents set up a working group to investigate inexpensive and cost-effective measures that they can swiftly enact to help them deal with flooding before it affects their properties. Nicola Blackwood: I suspect that my hon. Friend is about to describe a flood group like the Oxford Flood Alliance, which he and I are familiar with. It plays a huge role in reducing flood risk in Oxford by coming up with flood plans, mitigating flood risk in communities and developing flood resilience. Does he agree that this is a really important thing to encourage, and that any future flood insurance scheme must encourage such developments? Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. Local flood groups are very important for our communities. I am sure that, like my community flood group, my hon. Friend’s is working hard with the Environment Agency, the local authority and the local water and drainage boards to improve flood resistance capabilities. Some ideas that have been considered include allowing local residents to have control over mobile pumping units and sandbag storage and delivery and to use their local knowledge to protect the most vulnerable people. We must not forget that there are some severely vulnerable people in flood-risk areas, and we must make sure that they do not become isolated by flooding. Independently, many people are considering making flood resilience improvements to their own homes. The hard work, positive action and sense of resolve that I have witnessed in Naburn is extraordinary, and the community should be commended for its collective approach to the problems that it faces. I am well aware that, as has been pointed out, there are similar stories across the country of communities coming together to battle the difficulties of flooding, and they should all be commended. Mr Andrew Smith: I, too, praise the Oxford Flood Alliance. Insurance is one aspect being pursued there. The alliance has found that just because one person in one property gets a quote from an insurance company their neighbour may not be able to get anything like a similar quote from the same company, because the companies limit their exposure in these areas. That is driving up premiums and giving people intolerable uncertainty. Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with the right hon. Gentleman, and I have been told of similar circumstances in relation to the accessibility of local flood insurance. What my constituents fear, as I do, is that their efforts, which I have just explained, could all be in vain if the statement of principles ends without a new agreement in place. Home insurance premiums would sky-rocket for all residents in communities such as Naburn, regardless of whether or not a property is susceptible to flooding. Some people would lose flood insurance altogether, and, as has been said, mortgage agreements could be at risk as a result. I understand the need for negotiations between the Government and the ABI to be private and confidential, but the lack of any specific details emerging from the negotiations is fuelling my constituents’ concerns about how they will cope in the future. My constituents are prepared to come together to work as a community to face up to the flooding threat on their doorstep. They therefore need the same commitment from the Government and the insurance industry to do all that they can to protect people from the worst excesses of flooding and deliver an agreement that improves the availability and affordability of flooding insurance where flood resilience measures fail. It is time for action. 3.57 pm Sheryll Murray (South East Cornwall) (Con): First, I ask the House to join me in offering our heartfelt condolences to the family of Susan Norman, who suffered a tragic fatal accident during a landslip caused by heavy rainfall in Looe in my constituency on Friday. May I pay a special tribute to all the people from the emergency services who attended the scene and worked tirelessly throughout the day? I also wish to thank my hon. Friend the Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) for securing today’s important debate. My constituency has been one of the places worst hit by flooding over the past couple of years. The BBC acknowledged that places such as Looe, Polperro and my own village of Millbrook were some of the worst affected in Britain by flooding in November and December 2012. The heavy rainfall resulted in a lot of damage to highways, infrastructure and homes across my constituency. Cornwall council has estimated the cost of repairing the damage across Cornwall to be about £2.5 million. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, my hon. Friend the Member for Newbury (Richard Benyon) for visiting my constituency to see for himself the devastating effects of the floods. It meant a

1533 Flood Insurance 26 MARCH 2013 Flood Insurance 1534 lot to my constituents and it also meant that he was also able to see for himself the damage and destruction caused by surface water run-off in both east and west Looe. The most recent fatal landslip occurred just yards away from one that took place last December. So will the Minister join me in calling for the immediate publication of all road surveys and reports that have been undertaken over the past four years on the roads in the town of Looe and in the wider area of Cornwall? That would allow insurance companies and residents to be reassured, given the obvious and understandable concern that there is at the moment. The House should be aware that the residents raised the possibility of the landslip that took place last week when they wrote to the council on 15 January. They asked: “Is there a risk of subsidence or landslide on to the back of or even engulfing our properties?” They also asked whether they and their homes would be safe. The council’s response was: “The site has been inspected on a number of occasions and all areas giving rise to concern are included within the current works programme.” That work programme was due to be completed and the road to be reopened at the end of this week. The residents wrote again and presented a 60-page dossier to the chief executive of the council in February; they are waiting for a reply. I last wrote to the local councillor for an update in February, but again I am still waiting for a reply. A Looe town councillor, Councillor Brian Galipeau, formally proposed that the town council should take on the job of securing reassurance about the stability of Hannafore road and lane and sought a contingency plan in case of road failure to reassure the residents, and I am disappointed that the request has been met with what I understand to be accusations of scaremongering. I am sure the Minister will agree that securing reassurance about road stability deserves to be treated in a responsible manner, because it can affect the availability of insurance for those residents. I hope that he will join me in calling for the immediate funding he announced yesterday to be used for physical flood prevention measures and not to employ yet another council officer. Let me finish by highlighting the situation for two of my constituents. The first was being charged £200 to £300 for her flood insurance last year. Her home was flooded and in January, she was informed that it would cost £530 to renew her policy. The huge increase in her costs caused her to look elsewhere, but the majority of companies refuse to take her on at the moment. Another constituent has had major issues obtaining insurance since her property was flooded. She was informed by her insurance company that it needed a report from the Environment Agency, which has not given the necessary guarantees. I hope we will get some answers from the Minister today. 4.2 pm Stephen Gilbert (St Austell and Newquay) (LD): I join my hon. Friend the Member for South East Cornwall (Sheryll Murray) in expressing condolences to the family and friends of her constituent, who was so tragically killed. It shows the importance of this debate and the need, as all Members have said, for the Government to get on with the job and provide a solution for what will happen at the end of the statement of principles. There has been tremendous unanimity across the Chamber. I agreed with every word of what the hon. Member for Oxford West and Abingdon (Nicola Blackwood) said and with most of what the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North (Diana Johnson) said, although perhaps not the tone in which she said it. I recognise that the Government have worked hard behind the scenes with the Association of British Insurers to reach a solution, but the clock is ticking. It gives me no pleasure to be standing in the Chamber talking about flooding again, as I think that this is the fourth or fifth time that I have raised the issue in the House. The key point is the continued availability and affordability of insurance. A second issue, which I shall touch on briefly, is the operation of the Bellwin scheme— that is, shall we say, the insurance policy for local authorities that are hit by the cost of cleaning up floods. Before I do that, I want to join hon. Members from all parties who have paid tribute to the volunteers in their constituencies who are helping to build community resilience. Whether they are in Mevagissey, St Austell, Pentewan or Polmassick—or, perhaps most notably, in St Blazey—I see a huge amount of voluntary work in my constituency, with people coming forward and developing strategies and contingency plans. As we all know, flooding can be devastating, even when there is no loss of life. It can have a devastating impact on businesses and individuals as possessions and memories are washed away. In the clear-up, people need to know that insurance companies will pay out in a timely way and that they will be able to get insurance again for the future. Sadly, there remains a considerable danger that this simple aspiration for business and home owners will not be guaranteed and that affordable flood insurance will become unavailable in our country. The scale of the challenge is getting worse, not better: one in every six homes are at risk of flooding; 2.4 million properties are at risk from the sea and rivers; 2.8 million homes are at risk from surface flooding; and 5 million people live or work in flood-risk areas. As my hon. Friend the Member for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine (Sir Robert Smith) said, with the extent and nature of the threat we face changing, surely our response as a society should change, too. We are in an era of climate change and we all face unpredictable flooding risks and the potential for great costs. Therefore, I encourage the Government to recognise that this is not a problem that can be contained to specific areas; it is a national problem that requires a national response. As my hon. Friend the Member for South East Cornwall made clear, Cornwall has suffered hugely with the costs of repairing flood damage over recent years. The latest estimate I have from Cornwall council is that the cost in November and December for last year’s floods alone is £7.4 million in revenue and capital expenditure. The Government have rightly activated the Bellwin scheme, the insurance policy for local authorities hit by flooding. Sheryll Murray: Does my hon. Friend agree that under the Bellwin scheme’s rules the fact that Cornwall was changed to a unitary authority from six districts and one county council has disadvantaged Cornwall considerably?

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John Glen (Salisbury) (Con): My constituent Sarah<br />

McKerlie told me just a few days ago that the sale of her<br />

property has fallen through three times because of the<br />

ambiguous risk. The current uncertainty is leading to<br />

irrational behaviour that does not necessarily relate to<br />

insurability. This uncertainty needs to end, so that<br />

people can sell their properties. It is a real blight and is<br />

causing major distress to many people.<br />

Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. I<br />

have a number of constituents in the same boat who<br />

bring the same concerns to me.<br />

Given that the statement of principles comes to an<br />

end in June, the future looks very uncertain for many of<br />

my constituents and those of Members throughout the<br />

House, so I welcome the motion today. I want to focus<br />

on a village in my constituency situated to the south of<br />

York, on the banks of the River Ouse. Large parts of<br />

Naburn are at a significant risk of flooding. Late last<br />

year, I was contacted by a Naburn resident who informed<br />

me that, over the past 37 years, his property has been<br />

badly flooded on four separate occasions. In the six<br />

months since last autumn’s terrible wet weather, some<br />

homes in Naburn have been flooded numerous times.<br />

Thankfully, the people of Naburn have a strong sense of<br />

community spirit. They are Yorkshire folk, after all,<br />

and they are starting to pull together to do all they can<br />

to reduce their collective flood risk.<br />

Following a public meeting in the village in November,<br />

the parish council and a group of interested residents<br />

set up a working group to investigate inexpensive and<br />

cost-effective measures that they can swiftly enact to<br />

help them deal with flooding before it affects their<br />

properties.<br />

Nicola Blackwood: I suspect that my hon. Friend is<br />

about to describe a flood group like the Oxford Flood<br />

Alliance, which he and I are familiar with. It plays a<br />

huge role in reducing flood risk in Oxford by coming up<br />

with flood plans, mitigating flood risk in communities<br />

and developing flood resilience. Does he agree that this<br />

is a really important thing to encourage, and that any<br />

future flood insurance scheme must encourage such<br />

developments?<br />

Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend.<br />

Local flood groups are very important for our communities.<br />

I am sure that, like my community flood group, my hon.<br />

Friend’s is working hard with the Environment Agency,<br />

the local authority and the local water and drainage<br />

boards to improve flood resistance capabilities.<br />

Some ideas that have been considered include allowing<br />

local residents to have control over mobile pumping<br />

units and sandbag storage and delivery and to use their<br />

local knowledge to protect the most vulnerable people.<br />

We must not forget that there are some severely vulnerable<br />

people in flood-risk areas, and we must make sure that<br />

they do not become isolated by flooding. Independently,<br />

many people are considering making flood resilience<br />

improvements to their own homes.<br />

The hard work, positive action and sense of resolve<br />

that I have witnessed in Naburn is extraordinary, and<br />

the community should be commended for its collective<br />

approach to the problems that it faces. I am well aware<br />

that, as has been pointed out, there are similar stories<br />

across the country of communities coming together to<br />

battle the difficulties of flooding, and they should all be<br />

commended.<br />

Mr Andrew Smith: I, too, praise the Oxford Flood<br />

Alliance. Insurance is one aspect being pursued there.<br />

The alliance has found that just because one person in<br />

one property gets a quote from an insurance company<br />

their neighbour may not be able to get anything like a<br />

similar quote from the same company, because the<br />

companies limit their exposure in these areas. That is<br />

driving up premiums and giving people intolerable<br />

uncertainty.<br />

Julian Sturdy: I entirely agree with the right hon.<br />

Gentleman, and I have been told of similar circumstances<br />

in relation to the accessibility of local flood insurance.<br />

What my constituents fear, as I do, is that their<br />

efforts, which I have just explained, could all be in vain<br />

if the statement of principles ends without a new agreement<br />

in place. Home insurance premiums would sky-rocket<br />

for all residents in communities such as Naburn, regardless<br />

of whether or not a property is susceptible to flooding.<br />

Some people would lose flood insurance altogether,<br />

and, as has been said, mortgage agreements could be at<br />

risk as a result. I understand the need for negotiations<br />

between the Government and the ABI to be private and<br />

confidential, but the lack of any specific details emerging<br />

from the negotiations is fuelling my constituents’ concerns<br />

about how they will cope in the future.<br />

My constituents are prepared to come together to<br />

work as a community to face up to the flooding threat<br />

on their doorstep. They therefore need the same<br />

commitment from the Government and the insurance<br />

industry to do all that they can to protect people from<br />

the worst excesses of flooding and deliver an agreement<br />

that improves the availability and affordability of flooding<br />

insurance where flood resilience measures fail. It is time<br />

for action.<br />

3.57 pm<br />

Sheryll Murray (South East Cornwall) (Con): First, I<br />

ask the House to join me in offering our heartfelt<br />

condolences to the family of Susan Norman, who suffered<br />

a tragic fatal accident during a landslip caused by heavy<br />

rainfall in Looe in my constituency on Friday. May I<br />

pay a special tribute to all the people from the emergency<br />

services who attended the scene and worked tirelessly<br />

throughout the day? I also wish to thank my hon.<br />

Friend the Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab)<br />

for securing today’s important debate.<br />

My constituency has been one of the places worst hit<br />

by flooding over the past couple of years. The BBC<br />

acknowledged that places such as Looe, Polperro and<br />

my own village of Millbrook were some of the worst<br />

affected in Britain by flooding in November and December<br />

2012. The heavy rainfall resulted in a lot of damage to<br />

highways, infrastructure and homes across my constituency.<br />

Cornwall council has estimated the cost of repairing the<br />

damage across Cornwall to be about £2.5 million.<br />

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the<br />

Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and<br />

Rural Affairs, my hon. Friend the Member for Newbury<br />

(Richard Benyon) for visiting my constituency to see for<br />

himself the devastating effects of the floods. It meant a

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