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1495 Rail Franchising 26 MARCH 2013 Rail Franchising 1496 Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con): I welcome the certainty today’s statement brings and the opening of the east coast main line franchise. Can my right hon. Friend confirm that passenger gain will be at the forefront of the franchising process? Mr McLoughlin: I assure my hon. Friend that we are going to take passengers’ views very much into account in this system. That has not happened before, and today Passenger Focus has welcomed that development. It is part of the judgement that we must make when considering whether franchises are achieving their targets. Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab): Is the Secretary of State aware that tomorrow, to mark the 50th anniversary of Beeching, passenger groups and trade unions will demonstrate outside 80 railway stations against privatisation and job losses? Will he protect passenger safety and rule out job losses on the railways? Mr McLoughlin: I am not sure the hon. Lady was listening to my statement. I pointed out that we have had a better safety record on our railways in the past few years than for a number of years, and we are one of the safest rail operators in Europe. Jobs have been created as a result of more people using the railways. Privatisation has doubled the number of people using the railways. I would have expected the hon. Lady to welcome that, and unions to be out welcoming it too. Priti Patel (Witham) (Con): In the light of the 27-month extension that has been given to the Greater Anglia franchise, what improvements to services will be appended to the existing franchise as a condition, so that local commuters see improvements to the service before the next franchise comes up? Mr McLoughlin: I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who, along with colleagues from the Greater Anglia area, have given me a pamphlet setting out the changes being made. The Minister of State, Department for Transport, my right hon. Friend the Member for Chelmsford (Mr Burns), does not lose an opportunity to tell us how we must improve the services used by not only my hon. Friend’s constituents, but his. Tom Blenkinsop (Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland) (Lab): The Secretary of State’s response to my hon. Friend the Member for York Central (Hugh Bayley) was disturbing. He said that he was not bothered who would run the franchise or where they came from, and could not confirm where such a company would be headquartered. Can he not use the tendering process to ensure that these details are nailed down and that the headquarters are in the United Kingdom? Mr McLoughlin: I fear that the hon. Gentleman is taking me out of context. What I said was that my main concern is the service to the passenger, which I care very much about and want to see improve. The location of the headquarters will be up to the individual franchisees when they put their case forward, and they may make strong representations. Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con): The Secretary of State and I, and our constituents, use the midland main line. Will he confirm when the franchise is up for renewal, and will he allow prospective bidders to come forward with proposals for new electric trains, instead of the Department insisting that they use recycled trains from other lines? Mr McLoughlin: The date of the new contract for East Midlands will be mid-way through 2017, and a direct-operated tender deal will come to fruition in 2015. I hope my hon. Friend accepts that the fact that electrification of that line is included in next set of Network Rail works shows our commitment to it. I know how important— Maria Eagle (Garston and Halewood) (Lab): In the next Parliament. Mr McLoughlin: The hon. Lady says that, but the process starts in 2014, which is in this Parliament. I can assure her that 2014 will be in this Parliament, not the next Parliament, in which case we will be electrifying that line. Mr Speaker: Before she attends to her next pressing commitment, let us hear from Catherine McKinnell. Catherine McKinnell (Newcastle upon Tyne North) (Lab): Thank you, Mr Speaker. I agree with the Secretary of State that if our country is to compete on jobs and growth, we need a transport infrastructure that is second to none. Can he therefore reassure me that today’s announcement is in no way driven by the view expressed by the chief executive of the North Eastern local enterprise partnership that there is no need to invest in north-east transport, and that he does not share that view? Mr McLoughlin: There is every need to invest in transport across the United Kingdom, and LEPs have a very important role to play. I have not seen the exact quote, and I should like to see it in context. Heather Wheeler (South Derbyshire) (Con): I congratulate my right hon. Friend on today’s statement, particularly the great news about Ilkeston station, which will immediately transform and regenerate the area by providing connectivity. Is this the new dawn for the National Forest line—the old Ivanhoe line; can we look forward to that, too? Mr McLoughlin: I am sure I will hear a lot more about the Ivanhoe line from my hon. Friend. I am pleased that she welcomes the opening of the station at Ilkeston, along with the other two stations I have announced today. There will be further work on that, but she is right: the fact that I, as Transport Secretary, have appeared at the Dispatch Box today is a reflection of Members wanting more services. That is why it is so important that we get the investment levels right and the train companies operating the kind of services passengers want. Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab): Can the Secretary of State confirm that the open access slot on the east coast main line will still be available to services such as Hull Trains and will not be rolled up in any franchise tender document? Mr McLoughlin: Yes.

1497 Rail Franchising 26 MARCH 2013 Rail Franchising 1498 Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD): Wiltshire’s passenger rail offer stands to benefit from a multi-million pound grant from the coalition Government’s local sustainable transport fund. Now that the future of the franchise is clear, what is the Secretary of State’s advice to the promoter, Wiltshire council, and to First Great Western? Is it more “wait and see”, or that they should now get on with it? Mr McLoughlin: I think I would need a bit more notice before answering that question. If my hon. Friend writes to me, I will look at the issues in more detail. [Interruption.] The Under-Secretary of State for Transport, my hon. Friend the Member for Lewes (Norman Baker), says, “Just get on with it”. Henry Smith (Crawley) (Con): I very much welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement. Thameslink and Southern Railway recently announced new rolling stock to operate from the four stations within my constituency. Can he assure me that the changes to rail franchising announced today will not affect the delivery of that rolling stock? Mr McLoughlin: It certainly should not affect the delivery of the new trains. I know of no reason why it should and if I am wrong, I will obviously write to my hon. Friend. PennyMordaunt(PortsmouthNorth)(Con):Portsmouth’s experience of franchises awarded under the last Government was that the rolling stock was downgraded from the agreement. When will passenger comfort and service standards be written into the agreements, to ensure that passengers have access to a toilet and that commuters are not crippled by suburban rolling stock being used on main line routes? Mr McLoughlin: I am very disturbed to hear what my hon. Friend says, and I will certainly look into her points and get back to her in more detail in the very near future. Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con): There have been massive improvements on the west coast main line since privatisation and Virgin, but one way to improve things in the future—to continue improving competition and to keep down costs—would be by encouraging more operators to enter the market. Is there anything in my right hon. Friend’s statement that would encourage open access operators to come in on more existing services? Mr McLoughlin: There are some open access services, to which the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North (Diana Johnson) referred, on the east coast main line. I believe that applications for other open access services are with the Office of the Rail Regulator at the moment. I am happy to look at those and act on advice when I get it from the rail regulator. Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con): Rail users in Rugby will welcome the Secretary of State’s announcement about the Virgin franchise being extended on the west coast main line. Will he reassure my constituents that an extra 29 months will be enough to encourage Virgin to continue to invest in the railway? Mr McLoughlin: I know that Virgin is keen to continue with investments on that line and is happy to receive representations, both from my hon. Friend and from me, if good cases are made for investment that has a positive return. Rehman Chishti (Gillingham and Rainham) (Con): I thank the Secretary of State for his statement. May I also thank him for reducing train fares in the south-east by reducing the retail prices index plus 3% provision to RPI plus 1%? Under the previous Government, Southeastern had RPI plus 3% whereas the rest of the country had RPI plus 1%, and that was exceptionally unfair. Mr McLoughlin: I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that. The truth is that we are putting massive further investment into the railways. That has to be paid for by both the fare payer and the taxpayer, but it is right that we try to get that balance right. I am pleased that the Chancellor was able to take the increases down to RPI plus 1%, not only for this year, but for next year. Mr Marcus Jones (Nuneaton) (Con): I welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement and his intent to put the interests of passengers at the heart of rail franchising. The best interests of rail passengers in my constituency would be served by the reinstatement of fast off-peak services to Nuneaton, which were taken away by the previous Labour Government in 2008. Will he come to Nuneaton and meet me to discuss this vital issue at greater length? Mr McLoughlin: I am certainly more than happy to meet my hon. Friend at Nuneaton station. I believe that a date is going in my diary this afternoon—if it was not already, it will be now. Dr Thérèse Coffey (Suffolk Coastal) (Con): Suffolk commuters will be disappointed by the delay, although they are used to it as passengers, even though things have improved under Abellio. Will my right hon. Friend assure me that this will not deter or delay the needed investment in the freight line from Felixstowe to Nuneaton? Mr McLoughlin: The announcements I have made today will have nothing to do with the freight line. Again, I make the point to my hon. Friend that we are seeing not only an increase in passenger numbers, but a huge increase in the amount of freight using our railways—I believe that the figure is about 60%. I know that most colleagues and the general public welcome that very much. Mr Speaker: Order. Questions from 34 Back Benchers were answered by the Secretary of State in 25 minutes of exclusively Back-Bench time, which is an impressive record. Might I suggest that rather than sending his ministerial colleagues an Easter egg, the Secretary of State should send a DVD of the statement and the exchanges on it, which will be a great example for them to follow in the future? Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab): On a point of order—

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Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD): Wiltshire’s<br />

passenger rail offer stands to benefit from a multi-million<br />

pound grant from the coalition Government’s local<br />

sustainable transport fund. Now that the future of the<br />

franchise is clear, what is the Secretary of State’s advice<br />

to the promoter, Wiltshire council, and to First Great<br />

Western? Is it more “wait and see”, or that they should<br />

now get on with it?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: I think I would need a bit more<br />

notice before answering that question. If my hon. Friend<br />

writes to me, I will look at the issues in more detail.<br />

[Interruption.] The Under-Secretary of State for Transport,<br />

my hon. Friend the Member for Lewes (Norman Baker),<br />

says, “Just get on with it”.<br />

Henry Smith (Crawley) (Con): I very much welcome<br />

my right hon. Friend’s statement. Thameslink and Southern<br />

Railway recently announced new rolling stock to operate<br />

from the four stations within my constituency. Can he<br />

assure me that the changes to rail franchising announced<br />

today will not affect the delivery of that rolling stock?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: It certainly should not affect the<br />

delivery of the new trains. I know of no reason why it<br />

should and if I am wrong, I will obviously write to my<br />

hon. Friend.<br />

PennyMordaunt(PortsmouthNorth)(Con):Portsmouth’s<br />

experience of franchises awarded under the last Government<br />

was that the rolling stock was downgraded from the<br />

agreement. When will passenger comfort and service<br />

standards be written into the agreements, to ensure that<br />

passengers have access to a toilet and that commuters<br />

are not crippled by suburban rolling stock being used on<br />

main line routes?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: I am very disturbed to hear what my<br />

hon. Friend says, and I will certainly look into her<br />

points and get back to her in more detail in the very<br />

near future.<br />

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con): There have<br />

been massive improvements on the west coast main line<br />

since privatisation and Virgin, but one way to improve<br />

things in the future—to continue improving competition<br />

and to keep down costs—would be by encouraging<br />

more operators to enter the market. Is there anything in<br />

my right hon. Friend’s statement that would encourage<br />

open access operators to come in on more existing<br />

services?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: There are some open access services,<br />

to which the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull<br />

North (Diana Johnson) referred, on the east coast main<br />

line. I believe that applications for other open access<br />

services are with the Office of the Rail Regulator at the<br />

moment. I am happy to look at those and act on advice<br />

when I get it from the rail regulator.<br />

Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con): Rail users in Rugby<br />

will welcome the Secretary of State’s announcement<br />

about the Virgin franchise being extended on the west<br />

coast main line. Will he reassure my constituents that an<br />

extra 29 months will be enough to encourage Virgin to<br />

continue to invest in the railway?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: I know that Virgin is keen to continue<br />

with investments on that line and is happy to receive<br />

representations, both from my hon. Friend and from<br />

me, if good cases are made for investment that has a<br />

positive return.<br />

Rehman Chishti (Gillingham and Rainham) (Con): I<br />

thank the Secretary of State for his statement. May I<br />

also thank him for reducing train fares in the south-east<br />

by reducing the retail prices index plus 3% provision to<br />

RPI plus 1%? Under the previous Government,<br />

Southeastern had RPI plus 3% whereas the rest of the<br />

country had RPI plus 1%, and that was exceptionally<br />

unfair.<br />

Mr McLoughlin: I am grateful to my hon. Friend for<br />

that. The truth is that we are putting massive further<br />

investment into the railways. That has to be paid for by<br />

both the fare payer and the taxpayer, but it is right that<br />

we try to get that balance right. I am pleased that the<br />

Chancellor was able to take the increases down to RPI<br />

plus 1%, not only for this year, but for next year.<br />

Mr Marcus Jones (Nuneaton) (Con): I welcome my<br />

right hon. Friend’s statement and his intent to put the<br />

interests of passengers at the heart of rail franchising.<br />

The best interests of rail passengers in my constituency<br />

would be served by the reinstatement of fast off-peak<br />

services to Nuneaton, which were taken away by the<br />

previous Labour Government in 2008. Will he come to<br />

Nuneaton and meet me to discuss this vital issue at<br />

greater length?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: I am certainly more than happy to<br />

meet my hon. Friend at Nuneaton station. I believe that<br />

a date is going in my diary this afternoon—if it was not<br />

already, it will be now.<br />

Dr Thérèse Coffey (Suffolk Coastal) (Con): Suffolk<br />

commuters will be disappointed by the delay, although<br />

they are used to it as passengers, even though things<br />

have improved under Abellio. Will my right hon. Friend<br />

assure me that this will not deter or delay the needed<br />

investment in the freight line from Felixstowe to Nuneaton?<br />

Mr McLoughlin: The announcements I have made<br />

today will have nothing to do with the freight line.<br />

Again, I make the point to my hon. Friend that we are<br />

seeing not only an increase in passenger numbers, but a<br />

huge increase in the amount of freight using our railways—I<br />

believe that the figure is about 60%. I know that most<br />

colleagues and the general public welcome that very<br />

much.<br />

Mr Speaker: Order. Questions from 34 Back Benchers<br />

were answered by the Secretary of State in 25 minutes<br />

of exclusively Back-Bench time, which is an impressive<br />

record. Might I suggest that rather than sending his<br />

ministerial colleagues an Easter egg, the Secretary of<br />

State should send a DVD of the statement and the<br />

exchanges on it, which will be a great example for them<br />

to follow in the future?<br />

Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab): On a point of<br />

order—

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