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137 Territorial Army<br />

26 OCTOBER 2009<br />

Territorial Army<br />

138<br />

Mrs. Moon: Does my hon. Friend agree that the<br />

other vital role of the Territorials is that they bring to<br />

the ordinary workplace an understanding of what our<br />

front-line troops are experiencing? They bring an<br />

understanding of the training needs, the equipment that<br />

is used, and the problems that they face. To destroy that<br />

connection is extremely damaging.<br />

Bill Rammell: I emphatically understand the importance<br />

of that organic connection with the community. It is<br />

certainly not our intention to undermine or destroy it.<br />

I return to the point that I was making. Making every<br />

effort to support and resource our operations in Afghanistan<br />

is not only a matter of drawing on the Treasury reserve.<br />

Many parts of the core defence budget, such as recruitment<br />

and basic training, contribute as well, so we need to<br />

re-prioritise the core defence budget too. Whatever way<br />

people argue this, that inevitably means that tough<br />

choices will need to be made.<br />

It is a very positive sign for the future that recruitment<br />

to the Army has experienced a significant boost this<br />

year—9,450 recruits are expected to complete training<br />

this year, more than 1,000 up on last year and 1,500 more<br />

than the year before that. Bringing the Army towards<br />

full manning is part of what the main effort is all about.<br />

It will also help us to meet the harmony guidelines for<br />

our regular forces and relieve pressures brought about<br />

by Afghanistan operations. But those new recruits will<br />

cost money to pay, train and equip—extra money that<br />

cannot be drawn from the Treasury reserve for that<br />

purpose. It has to be found within existing budgets, so<br />

there is a hard choice to make.<br />

We have asked each area of defence to look at<br />

uncommitted budgets in this year and to prioritise in<br />

the context of Afghanistan. The Chief of the General<br />

Staff came forward with proposals from the Army to<br />

help to bring the budget into balance in the light of that<br />

recent recruitment boost. After discussion, the Secretary<br />

of State endorsed that advice from the military. He did<br />

so, being clear that we will not allow any risk to the<br />

Afghanistan campaign in the future to materialise. That<br />

is at the heart of what it means for Afghanistan to be<br />

the main effort, and we make no apologies for moving<br />

resources in that direction.<br />

Sir Robert Smith: Will the Minister give way?<br />

Bill Rammell: No, I have to make some progress.<br />

I shall now set out those measures as they affect the<br />

Territorial Army, as the hon. Member for North-East<br />

Milton Keynes has asked me to. The Army has proposed,<br />

as part of its contribution to bringing budgets towards<br />

balance this year and as a contribution to the main<br />

efforts, that it will reduce the amount spent on the<br />

Territorial Army this year which is not directly related<br />

to Afghanistan. That initial proposal was to suspend<br />

the remainder of this financial year’s TA activity that<br />

was not directly supporting operations, contributing<br />

£20 million to a total saving of £43 million in the TA<br />

budget this year.<br />

In saying that, let me be crystal clear: no individual<br />

deploying to Afghanistan does so without the required<br />

training; no TA soldier will be deployed on operations<br />

unless the Army is satisfied that he is properly trained<br />

and prepared; and there is emphatically not a cut to<br />

pre-deployment training. The training needs of TA<br />

personnel deploying to Afghanistan will continue to be<br />

individually assessed, and each will receive the training<br />

that they need before they begin the pre-deployment<br />

training that is specific to the operation upon which<br />

they embark. For reserves, that training is then validated<br />

at the reserves training and mobilisation centre and by<br />

the Permanent Joint Headquarters, before individuals<br />

are mobilised to join a formed unit for an extended<br />

period of collective training ahead of operations.<br />

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and I<br />

have listened to the comments and representations that<br />

hon. Members have made in recent days. Although we<br />

have always been clear during the debate that those<br />

deploying to Afghanistan will get all the training that<br />

they need, we do understand the concerns that have<br />

been expressed about the effect on those who are not<br />

due to deploy in the foreseeable future. I of course<br />

understand why people might be concerned about the<br />

longer-term effect on capability if the current situation<br />

continues indefinitely.<br />

In the short term, the Army is clear that the measures<br />

can be managed without impact on support for current<br />

operations. But, we are all clear that we will not allow<br />

any longer-term risks to materialise. We recognise that<br />

in some quarters there are genuine concerns that, if the<br />

habit of TA activity is lost for a few months, some of<br />

our volunteers may drift away and never return; and we<br />

understand that the TA is more likely to come through<br />

this difficult period in good order if its members are<br />

encouraged to come together regularly, even if not as<br />

frequently as in the past.<br />

We will therefore ensure some degree of continuity<br />

for those who are not deploying to Afghanistan in the<br />

next few months. Taking all that into account, we<br />

announced today—I did so earlier today in the Chamber—a<br />

small adjustment to the measures that we proposed. We<br />

are reducing the saving by £2.5 million to fund one<br />

training evening per month for all TA personnel from<br />

now until April 2010. I hope the hon. Gentleman will<br />

welcome that change, because it is one that he called for.<br />

Mr. Lancaster: The Minister just said that he will<br />

introduce one TA drill night for all TA personnel, so<br />

that includes specialist units as well, does it?<br />

Bill Rammell: It is for everyone concerned. As I said,<br />

I hope that the hon. Gentleman will support the measure,<br />

because I know it is one that he called for. How individual<br />

TA units arrange it will be a decision for their chain of<br />

command.<br />

Let me also say to the hon. Gentleman, as he has<br />

raised this point, that we do not propose to close any<br />

TA centres. However, I must emphasise that the remainder<br />

of the savings measures are unavoidably necessary in<br />

these challenging times and to focus spending on<br />

Afghanistan. Resources are tight, and I am sure the<br />

House agrees that we have to ensure that our mission in<br />

Afghanistan gets all the support it needs.<br />

As I have said, the precise training that is affected is<br />

being determined locally, depending on local circumstances<br />

and priorities, and commanding officers have some<br />

flexibility in the implementation of savings measures.<br />

All new recruits to the TA will continue to receive phase<br />

1 training. TA personnel who have not yet qualified for<br />

their annual training bounty will have the opportunity<br />

to undertake training to enable them to qualify. The

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