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117 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009<br />

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[Lords]<br />

is obsolete—first, because it bans the sale of salmon and<br />

sea trout at the wrong times of year. The dates in<br />

section 22 originally mirrored the close seasons for salmon<br />

and sea trout, but, over time, the Environment Agency<br />

has used its powers to move those close seasons to more<br />

appropriate dates, and the two are now out of kilter.<br />

Secondly, section 22 is obsolete because its contribution<br />

to the Environment Agency’s fight against poaching has<br />

been overtaken by powers under the Salmon Act 1986. I<br />

could go on, but this section is a classic example of<br />

out-of-date legislation that should be repealed. With<br />

those comments, which were slightly rushed, but<br />

comprehensive, I hope, I urge hon. Members to withdraw<br />

their amendments and accept the Government’s<br />

amendments as good improvements to the Bill.<br />

Mr. Austin Mitchell: I do not intend to prolong the<br />

debate, but I am surprised by the amount of passion<br />

against the fishing industry that has been roused in the<br />

breasts of Members who represent urban constituencies<br />

that are scores of miles from any fishing port in the<br />

country. I shall not go on, because there would be a big<br />

educational job there, about the £6 billion a year<br />

contribution that the fishing industry makes to our<br />

economy. I will say, however, that I was very happy with<br />

the Minister’s reply. My main intention, in defending<br />

the interests of the industry in this way, was to get him<br />

to undertake certain commitments that he has<br />

wholeheartedly given.<br />

I am disappointed by the Minister’s response on the<br />

white herring legislation, because it leaves Scotland,<br />

once again, in a privileged position. The Scots have<br />

their own white herring Act and the protection that it<br />

gives, whereas that legislation will be removed from<br />

English fishermen. That is another advantage of devolution<br />

in Scotland. Joking aside, I am happy with the commitments<br />

that the Minister has given, and I am grateful to him for<br />

giving them, because they recognise the importance of<br />

fishermen. With those comments, I beg to ask leave to<br />

withdraw the clause.<br />

Clause, by leave, withdrawn.<br />

Andrew George: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy<br />

Speaker. I seek your guidance. We have had some good<br />

debates so far, and we are about to enter into a debate<br />

on a very significant element of the Bill—in fact, many<br />

people consider it central—on marine conservation. We<br />

have only half an hour left for that debate, yet tomorrow<br />

we have debates on matters that several of us consider<br />

to be less significant, if important nevertheless. Can you<br />

use your offices, or find some means through the usual<br />

channels, in order that the debate on marine conservation<br />

can be extended on to tomorrow’s Order Paper?<br />

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): Unfortunately,<br />

these matters are not in the hands of the Chair. To be<br />

honest, points of order like that simply take time out of<br />

the debate at this stage of proceedings.<br />

Clause 117<br />

GROUNDS FOR DESIGNATION OF MCZS<br />

9.30 pm<br />

Ms Katy Clark: I beg to move amendment 3,<br />

page 78, line 32, at end insert—<br />

‘(d) the marine ecosystem as a whole.’.<br />

Marine and Coastal Access Bill<br />

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Mr. Deputy Speaker: With this it will be convenient<br />

to discuss the following: amendment 16, page 79, line 8, leave<br />

out ‘may’ and insert ‘shall’.<br />

Amendment 1, page 79, line 9, at end insert ‘only<br />

where—<br />

(a) a choice exists between two or more potential MCZs of<br />

equal ecological value; and<br />

(b) to do so does not hinder the achievement of the<br />

objective in section 123 to create a network.’.<br />

Amendment 43, page 79, line 10, at end insert—<br />

‘(7A) In considering the setting of the conservation objectives<br />

for the MCZ (under subsection 2) the appropriate authority shall<br />

have regard to the economic and social consequences of doing<br />

so; particularly in respect of traditional or long established<br />

marine activities.’.<br />

Amendment 2, in clause 123, page 82, line 18, at end<br />

insert—<br />

‘(d) that the network includes highly protected sites.’.<br />

Amendment 19, in clause 125, page 85, line 26, at end<br />

insert—<br />

‘(11A) In carrying out its duties under this section a public<br />

authority must have regard to the social and economic<br />

consequences of its acts.’.<br />

Amendment 22, in clause 126, page 86, line 42, at end<br />

insert—<br />

‘(10A) In carrying out its duties under this section a public<br />

authority must have regard to the social and economic<br />

consequences of its decisions.’.<br />

Amendment 20, in clause 130, page 88, line 39, leave<br />

out ‘(7)’ and insert ‘(8)’.<br />

Amendment 21, page 89, line 6, at end insert—<br />

‘(4A) In drawing up any byelaw under this section the MMO<br />

must have regard to any social or economic consequences.’.<br />

Ms Clark: It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to<br />

contribute to this debate. I wish to speak to amendment 3,<br />

which I tabled. It would amend clause 117, which deals<br />

with the grounds for the designation of marine conservation<br />

zones. The amendment relates to the Minister’s power<br />

to order that a zone should be designated as an MCZ.<br />

The Bill enables the Minister, where he or she finds it<br />

desirable, to create an MCZ for the purposes of protecting<br />

and conserving flora and fauna, our marine habitat,<br />

and features of geological and geomorphological interest.<br />

The amendment would strengthen the Bill by enabling<br />

the Minister to create a zone to protect the marine<br />

ecosystem as a whole. We are no longer in a position<br />

whereby we can regard our sea as an unlimited renewable<br />

resource. As most of us know, the intervention of<br />

humankind has not only caused significant depletion of<br />

our fishing stocks but led to the degradation of all sorts<br />

of other forms of marine life. The amendment aims to<br />

strengthen the range of circumstances in which an<br />

MCZ could be designated.<br />

I have personal experience of this matter in that for<br />

15 years in my constituency there has been a significant<br />

campaign for an MCZ in Lamlash bay. Earlier this year,<br />

it was announced that there would indeed be an MCZ,<br />

but there has since been a great deal of frustration at the<br />

lack of progress towards that proposal becoming a<br />

reality. The organisation Coast—a community-based<br />

campaign in my constituency with more than 1,800<br />

members—has been campaigning for an MCZ, and the<br />

work that it has carried out shows the difficulty that<br />

there is in obtaining such zones.

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