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47 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 48 [Lords] [Lords] (b) may, unless (or except to the extent that) the agreement provides for this paragraph not to apply, authorise a committee, sub-committee, member, officer or employee of the body to perform the function on its behalf. (5) Subject to subsection (4)(b), an eligible body which is authorised under an agreement to perform a function may not authorise any other body or person to perform that function. (6) Section 177 (exemption from liability) applies in relation to any function which an eligible body is authorised under an agreement to perform as if the reference to an IFC authority were a reference to the eligible body.’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.) Brought up, read the First and Second time, and added to the Bill. New Clause 6 SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO AGREEMENTS UNDER SECTION [POWER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH ELIGIBLE BODIES] ‘(1) An agreement under section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies], and any approval given by the Secretary of State under that section, must be in writing. (2) An IFC authority which has entered into an agreement with an eligible body must arrange for a copy of the agreement to be published in a way that the IFC authority thinks is suitable for bringing it to the attention of persons likely to be affected by it. (3) No power of a Minister of the Crown under any enactment to give directions to a statutory body extends to giving a direction— (a) requiring it to enter into an agreement under section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]; (b) prohibiting it from entering into such an agreement; (c) requiring it to include, or prohibiting it from including, particular terms in such an agreement; (d) requiring it to negotiate, or prohibiting it from negotiating, a variation or termination of such an agreement. (4) Schedule 15 to the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 (c. 40) (restrictions on disclosure of information) applies in relation to an authorisation by an IFC authority or an eligible body under section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies] or [Agreements under section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]: particular powers] of this Act as it applies in relation to an authorisation under section 69 of that Act by an office-holder.’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.) Brought up, read the First and Second time, and added to the Bill. Clause 160 BYELAWS: PROCEDURE Amendment made: 6, page 108, line 29, at end insert— ‘( ) Regulations under this section may make different provision for cases where an IFC authority has entered into an agreement under section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies] authorising a body to perform any of the authority’s functions relating to byelaws.’.—(Huw Irranca- Davies.) Clause 181 INTERPRETATION OF THIS CHAPTER Amendment made: 8, page 115, line 9, at end insert— ‘“eligible body” has the meaning given by section [Eligible bodies];’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.) Clause 291 THE COASTAL ACCESS DUTY Mr. Benyon: I beg to move amendment 35, page 187, line 28, leave out ‘is’ and insert ‘may be’. Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment 32, in clause 292, page 189, line 5, leave out subsections (a) and (b) and insert— ‘(a) holds a legal estate or has a legal interest in the land, or’. Amendment 34, in clause 297, page 195, line 13, at end insert— ‘(1) The Secretary of State must, by regulation, set out the way in which a person with a relevant interest in land may require Natural England to review a coastal access report. Reasons for review may include— (a) proposed or actual changes in the use of land; (b) review of existing directions or proposed new directions made under Chapter 2 or Part 1 of the CROW Act for the exclusion or restriction of the right of access. (2) The regulations referred to in subsection (1) must set out the way in which a person with a relevant interest in land may make an objection under the procedure set out in Schedule 19 including objections against the refusal of Natural England to undertake a review, or to carry out the review within specified timescales, or to amend a coastal access report.’. Amendment 33, page 197, line 49, leave out subsections (a) and (b) and insert— ‘(a) holds a legal estate or has a legal interest in the land, or’. Amendment 40, page 200, line 32, at end insert— ‘(10) The Secretary of State shall within 2 years from the commencement of this section lay before Parliament a report which shall appraise the progress made in establishing long distance coastal routes in England with particular regard to— (a) the voluntary inclusion of parkland; (b) the inclusion of the Isle of Wight; (c) the addition of further islands reachable by ferry; (d) the use of seasonal ferries as part of the coastal path. (11) In the report required in (10) The Secretary of State shall append proposals to remedy shortcomings in the establishment of coastal routes that are apparent to him as a result of its presentation.’. Amendment 37, page 202, line 26, leave out Clause 300. Clause 166 POWERS OF IFC OFFICERS Amendment made: 7, page 110, line 22, leave out ‘by the authority for the district’ and insert ‘under section 155 for the district (or having effect as if so made)’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.) Mr. Benyon: We move on to part 9 of the Bill, on coastal access. Many Members might feel, like me, that that part of the Bill has been bolted on to 300 clauses of very important marine Bill. That has risked diverting some of our energies and intentions away from an important part of the Bill. We all want to see more access to our countryside in all its forms: whether this was the right part of the Bill to do that is questionable,

49 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 50 [Lords] [Lords] but we are where we are. It is most important that we be up front with the British public about what we can achieve. Charles Clover, who has already been mentioned, wrote in yesterday’s The Sunday Times that “a study by Natural England, the access quango, found that the amount of public access to the coast, of one kind or another, was…84 per cent. Of the remaining 16 per cent., half comprises ports and harbours.” According to Natural England’s own figures, therefore, we are talking about 8 per cent. Mr. Benyon: My friend and neighbour the Member for Reading, West (Martin Salter) looks very excited. Martin Salter: I thank my friend and neighbour for giving way. I am not excited, and I am always benign to him. Does he accept that the misinformation on the CROW Act came not from the people who were promoting it but from the Countryside Alliance and other interests, who deliberately set out to misrepresent what was in the Bill and the intention behind the campaign? I think he knows that that is the case. Ms Angela C. Smith (Sheffield, Hillsborough) (Lab): According to another source, Natural England has estimated that “there is no satisfactory or legally secure access to 34% of the English coast”, not 16 per cent. Mr. Benyon: We could take up a lot of time arguing about maths. Charles Clover goes on to say that a place in his locality in Essex, Mistley quay, will not benefit from access as a result of the Bill. We need to be upfront about what will actually be provided, and how we can facilitate such provision. Amendment 35 deals with coastal margin, or spreading room. As has been made clear throughout our debates on the Bill, it will be impossible to provide spreading room—or coastal margin—along the entirety of the coastal route. Safety, privacy and biosecurity have all been cited as real and legitimate reasons for a limitation being placed on it. Our amendment seeks to change the wording of clause 291 to reflect the reality of spreading room. If it is not to be placed along the entirety of the coastal route—as we have been reassured by Natural England and the Minister that it will not—the wording of the Bill should reflect that. The issue of coastal margin in the Bill has raised concerns around the country, not least because there will be many areas of exceptions and restrictions. The concept of complete access along a coastal margin will simply not be achievable. The Bill should be amended to reflect reality so that the public are not misled, as they may have been by the perception that the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 would create a universal right to roam. Paddy Tipping (Sherwood) (Lab): I was heavily involved with the Bill that became the CROW Act. It gave no impression of a universal right to roam. Those of us who use and welcome our new right are very clear about the fact that there is no universal right, and the people who exercise that right do so in a very responsible way. Mr. Benyon: I entirely understand the hon. Gentleman’s point. What I am saying is certainly not a criticism of him or of anyone else who was involved in that Bill, but I assure him that many people immediately assumed that there was some new right enabling them to go anywhere, although we all know that that was not the case. Perhaps we can blame elements of the press for the way in which they reported what was happening. I am sorry if what was intended to be a fairly benign comment has excited a few people— Martin Salter rose— Mr. Benyon: I was not in the House at the time. May we draw a line under this argument? I did not intend to create such excitement—although, during what could have been a fairly dry afternoon, it has proved to be an exciting diversion. I should be happy to continue the conversation with the hon. Gentleman on the river bank. The concept that all land adjacent to, and seaward of, the line of the route should be included as coastal margin is, as we know, unrealistic. While there is an intention to draw the route as close to the sea as possible, there will be circumstances in which that does not happen. In those circumstances, land types that are clearly not coastal—that are not foreshore or adjacent cliff, bank, dune or flat—should not be included as coastal margin. The Bill should properly reflect the lack of continuity of margin that will inevitably be the case because of physical features on the ground. We believe that a proper distinction needs to be drawn between the route itself and associated spreading room. The current Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs consultation on the definitions of coastal land shows that there is an inconsistency of approach in its proposals. There is a failure to make a proper distinction between the route and spreading room, such as the proposed inclusion of land within 20 metres of a dwelling not simply to enable the route to pass over it where there is no practical alternative, but also with the possibility of that land being designated as spreading room. There is also still considerable concern among some groups over mapping of spreading room. The Minister has given the reassurance that he believes that Natural England should be sensitive to requests for maps. Is he willing to give a reassurance on the Floor of the House, however, as that would be very helpful? Given that it has been generally accepted by the Government that words will not always be sufficient to describe the coastal margin associated with the new coastal trail, will the Minister confirm that where a land occupier or landowner has made a reasonable request for the provision of a map for clarity, Natural England will be sympathetic in meeting such requests? Amendments 32 and 33 concern the definition of an interest in the land. We believe that coastal access must be based upon local consensus where possible, and be developed at local level in order to ensure that this right of access takes account of the pre-existing rights of farmers, home owners, businesses, wildfowling clubs and other sporting interests, as well as the needs of conservation and public safety. This proposal follows concerns that we raised in Committee over the treatment of those with certain legal interests in land, such as those with sporting rights, that we felt were absent from the Bill.

47 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 48<br />

[Lords]<br />

[Lords]<br />

(b) may, unless (or except to the extent that) the agreement<br />

provides for this paragraph not to apply, authorise<br />

a committee, sub-committee, member, officer or<br />

employee of the body to perform the function on its<br />

behalf.<br />

(5) Subject to subsection (4)(b), an eligible body which is<br />

authorised under an agreement to perform a function may not<br />

authorise any other body or person to perform that function.<br />

(6) Section 177 (exemption from liability) applies in relation to<br />

any function which an eligible body is authorised under an<br />

agreement to perform as if the reference to an IFC authority<br />

were a reference to the eligible body.’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.)<br />

Brought up, read the First and Second time, and added<br />

to the Bill.<br />

New Clause 6<br />

SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO<br />

AGREEMENTS UNDER SECTION [POWER TO ENTER INTO<br />

AGREEMENTS WITH ELIGIBLE BODIES]<br />

‘(1) An agreement under section [Power to enter into<br />

agreements with eligible bodies], and any approval given by the<br />

Secretary of State under that section, must be in writing.<br />

(2) An IFC authority which has entered into an agreement<br />

with an eligible body must arrange for a copy of the agreement to<br />

be published in a way that the IFC authority thinks is suitable for<br />

bringing it to the attention of persons likely to be affected by it.<br />

(3) No power of a Minister of the Crown under any enactment<br />

to give directions to a statutory body extends to giving a<br />

direction—<br />

(a) requiring it to enter into an agreement under section<br />

[Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies];<br />

(b) prohibiting it from entering into such an agreement;<br />

(c) requiring it to include, or prohibiting it from including,<br />

particular terms in such an agreement;<br />

(d) requiring it to negotiate, or prohibiting it from<br />

negotiating, a variation or termination of such an<br />

agreement.<br />

(4) Schedule 15 to the Deregulation and Contracting Out<br />

Act 1994 (c. 40) (restrictions on disclosure of information)<br />

applies in relation to an authorisation by an IFC authority or an<br />

eligible body under section [Power to enter into agreements with<br />

eligible bodies] or [Agreements under section [Power to enter into<br />

agreements with eligible bodies]: particular powers] of this Act as<br />

it applies in relation to an authorisation under section 69 of that<br />

Act by an office-holder.’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.)<br />

Brought up, read the First and Second time, and added<br />

to the Bill.<br />

Clause 160<br />

BYELAWS: PROCEDURE<br />

Amendment made: 6, page 108, line 29, at end insert—<br />

‘( ) Regulations under this section may make different<br />

provision for cases where an IFC authority has entered into an<br />

agreement under section [Power to enter into agreements with<br />

eligible bodies] authorising a body to perform any of the<br />

authority’s functions relating to byelaws.’.—(Huw Irranca-<br />

Davies.)<br />

Clause 181<br />

INTERPRETATION OF THIS CHAPTER<br />

Amendment made: 8, page 115, line 9, at end insert—<br />

‘“eligible body” has the meaning given by section<br />

[Eligible bodies];’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.)<br />

Clause 291<br />

THE COASTAL ACCESS DUTY<br />

Mr. Benyon: I beg to move amendment 35, page 187,<br />

line 28, leave out ‘is’ and insert ‘may be’.<br />

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): With this it<br />

will be convenient to discuss the following:<br />

Amendment 32, in clause 292, page 189, line 5, leave<br />

out subsections (a) and (b) and insert—<br />

‘(a) holds a legal estate or has a legal interest in the land,<br />

or’.<br />

Amendment 34, in clause 297, page 195, line 13, at<br />

end insert—<br />

‘(1) The Secretary of State must, by regulation, set out the way<br />

in which a person with a relevant interest in land may require<br />

Natural England to review a coastal access report. Reasons for<br />

review may include—<br />

(a) proposed or actual changes in the use of land;<br />

(b) review of existing directions or proposed new<br />

directions made under Chapter 2 or Part 1 of the<br />

CROW Act for the exclusion or restriction of the<br />

right of access.<br />

(2) The regulations referred to in subsection (1) must set out<br />

the way in which a person with a relevant interest in land may<br />

make an objection under the procedure set out in Schedule 19<br />

including objections against the refusal of Natural England to<br />

undertake a review, or to carry out the review within specified<br />

timescales, or to amend a coastal access report.’.<br />

Amendment 33, page 197, line 49, leave out subsections<br />

(a) and (b) and insert—<br />

‘(a) holds a legal estate or has a legal interest in the land,<br />

or’.<br />

Amendment 40, page 200, line 32, at end insert—<br />

‘(10) The Secretary of State shall within 2 years from the<br />

commencement of this section lay before <strong>Parliament</strong> a report<br />

which shall appraise the progress made in establishing long<br />

distance coastal routes in England with particular regard to—<br />

(a) the voluntary inclusion of parkland;<br />

(b) the inclusion of the Isle of Wight;<br />

(c) the addition of further islands reachable by ferry;<br />

(d) the use of seasonal ferries as part of the coastal path.<br />

(11) In the report required in (10) The Secretary of State shall<br />

append proposals to remedy shortcomings in the establishment<br />

of coastal routes that are apparent to him as a result of its<br />

presentation.’.<br />

Amendment 37, page 202, line 26, leave out Clause 300.<br />

Clause 166<br />

POWERS OF IFC OFFICERS<br />

Amendment made: 7, page 110, line 22, leave out ‘by<br />

the authority for the district’ and insert<br />

‘under section 155 for the district (or having effect as if so<br />

made)’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.)<br />

Mr. Benyon: We move on to part 9 of the Bill, on<br />

coastal access. Many Members might feel, like me, that<br />

that part of the Bill has been bolted on to 300 clauses of<br />

very important marine Bill. That has risked diverting<br />

some of our energies and intentions away from an<br />

important part of the Bill. We all want to see more<br />

access to our countryside in all its forms: whether this<br />

was the right part of the Bill to do that is questionable,

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