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33 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 34<br />

[Lords]<br />

[Lords]<br />

Government new clause 4—Variation, review and<br />

cancellation of agreements under section [Power to enter<br />

into agreements with eligible bodies].<br />

Government new clause 5—Agreements under section<br />

[Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]:<br />

particular powers.<br />

Government new clause 6—Supplementary provisions<br />

with respect to agreements under section [Power to enter<br />

into agreements with eligible bodies].<br />

Government amendments 6 to 8<br />

Amendment 27, in clause 184, page 117, line 27, at<br />

end insert—<br />

‘(2A) The provisions in sections [Power to enter into<br />

agreements with eligible bodies], [Eligible bodies], [Variation,<br />

review and cancellation of agreements under section [Power to<br />

enter into agreements with eligible bodies]], [Agreements under<br />

section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]:<br />

particular powers] and [Supplementary provisions with respect to<br />

agreements under section [Power to enter into agreements with<br />

eligible bodies]] shall apply to Welsh Ministers in relation to<br />

Wales.’.<br />

Huw Irranca-Davies: I shall speak to new clauses 2, 3,<br />

4, 5 and 5, and amendments 6 to 8.<br />

Part 6 will replace sea fisheries committees with inshore<br />

fisheries and conservation authorities—IFCAs—in<br />

England. These will have a duty to manage sea fisheries<br />

sustainably, balancing socio-economic benefits with<br />

protection of the marine environment. They will have<br />

more money and strengthened powers, while retaining<br />

local involvement in decision making. Under the current<br />

Bill model, IFCAs will lead on marine species management<br />

in the inshore area, including in estuaries. The Environment<br />

Agency will lead on protection for salmon, trout, other<br />

migratory species and freshwater fish in estuaries and as<br />

far out as the 6 nautical mile limit.<br />

As many hon. Members are aware, in January we<br />

launched a consultation on options for the number of<br />

future inshore fisheries and conservation districts. Following<br />

that consultation, I am happy to confirm that 10 IFC<br />

districts will be established, and the new IFCAs will be<br />

established with full powers and duties in April 2011.<br />

The Department will carry out more detailed consultation<br />

in 2010 to establish the exact landward and seaward<br />

boundaries of the new districts. I know that that<br />

announcement will be welcomed by all Members of the<br />

House.<br />

During a useful Commons Committee discussion on<br />

part 6, concerns were raised by a number of Members<br />

that the Bill as drafted did not provide sufficient flexibility<br />

to ensure the most joined-up inshore fisheries management,<br />

particularly in areas such as estuaries. In Committee,<br />

considerable pressure was exerted on us to amend the<br />

Bill so that IFCA functions can be delegated to the<br />

Environment Agency in particular, so that marine fisheries<br />

in estuaries could be managed in the most efficient way.<br />

To address this, we have tabled new clauses 2, 3, 4, 5<br />

and 6 and amendments 6, 7 and 8, which provide the<br />

option for IFCA functions to be delegated to the<br />

Environment Agency and to neighbouring IFCAs. An<br />

order-making power is provided to add to the list of<br />

eligible bodies so as to enable delegation to be made to<br />

other, named public bodies. Bodies can also be removed<br />

from the list.<br />

Bill Wiggin (Leominster) (Con): Will the Minister be<br />

kind enough to explain briefly why he has chosen the<br />

Environment Agency rather than the Marine Management<br />

Organisation for this function?<br />

Huw Irranca-Davies: That is a good point. The Bill is<br />

future-proofed, in that the Secretary of State, with the<br />

agreement of an IFCA and partners on the ground,<br />

could agree in future to delegate to another body. That<br />

could be the MMO, another IFCA or the Environment<br />

Agency. It could be another body which, at this moment,<br />

I cannot imagine. We have future-proofed the Bill, but<br />

we have also made it clear that the Secretary of State<br />

can waive that delegation power. The purpose of the<br />

measures is to give that flexibility, recognising, as has<br />

been the focus of the Bill, that there will be local<br />

solutions on the ground. I am sure the hon. Gentleman<br />

will welcome that.<br />

Mr. Austin Mitchell (Great Grimsby) (Lab): I have no<br />

quarrel with or opposition to what is proposed, because<br />

it seems a sensible redistribution of functions to bodies<br />

best able to perform them. However, I should like my<br />

hon. Friend’s assurance that fishing, which has been<br />

excessively heavily burdened with regulations, will not<br />

be burdened with further regulations as a result of this<br />

reorganisation.<br />

Huw Irranca-Davies: My hon. Friend, who is a stalwart<br />

advocate of the fisheries not only in terms of Grimsby,<br />

in his constituency, but throughout the UK, is right to<br />

raise the issue of fisheries’ regulation, but I assure him<br />

that the proposed changes would provide flexibility to<br />

ensure that the best organisation had responsibility for<br />

forward fisheries management locally and regionally.<br />

The proposed changes would not add any bureaucracy<br />

or regulation, and he can report back those assurances<br />

not only to his constituents, but to sea fishermen throughout<br />

the UK.<br />

4pm<br />

Andrew George (St. Ives) (LD): Do the Government’s<br />

proposed changes risk causing an unintended consequence?<br />

Sea fisheries committees already co-operate informally<br />

across borders, and they can assist each other, for<br />

example, with monitoring and enforcement measures.<br />

No formal agreements exist, but would the proposed<br />

changes require IFCAs to introduce such agreements?<br />

Huw Irranca-Davies: No. The Bill includes a provision<br />

to formalise agreements on working across estuaries or<br />

water areas, but existing voluntary arrangements and<br />

the ability to work together across areas, including on<br />

enforcement and so on, will continue. The proposed<br />

changes would not hamper that arrangement, and we<br />

would not want that to happen. However, they are<br />

designed to respond to the concerns, rightly raised in<br />

Committee, that the demarcation of IFCAs and the<br />

Environment Agency represented a somewhat rigid<br />

approach to who was responsible, not least in upper<br />

estuary areas. The sole purpose of the proposed changes<br />

is to introduce flexibility; it is certainly not to override<br />

the effective existing partnerships with sea fisheries<br />

committees and others.<br />

The Bill already provides for MMO functions to be<br />

delegated to relevant bodies, including IFCAs, and our<br />

proposed changes would provide for a similar model of<br />

delegation for IFCA functions. I shall turn to the key

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