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33 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 26 OCTOBER 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Bill 34<br />
[Lords]<br />
[Lords]<br />
Government new clause 4—Variation, review and<br />
cancellation of agreements under section [Power to enter<br />
into agreements with eligible bodies].<br />
Government new clause 5—Agreements under section<br />
[Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]:<br />
particular powers.<br />
Government new clause 6—Supplementary provisions<br />
with respect to agreements under section [Power to enter<br />
into agreements with eligible bodies].<br />
Government amendments 6 to 8<br />
Amendment 27, in clause 184, page 117, line 27, at<br />
end insert—<br />
‘(2A) The provisions in sections [Power to enter into<br />
agreements with eligible bodies], [Eligible bodies], [Variation,<br />
review and cancellation of agreements under section [Power to<br />
enter into agreements with eligible bodies]], [Agreements under<br />
section [Power to enter into agreements with eligible bodies]:<br />
particular powers] and [Supplementary provisions with respect to<br />
agreements under section [Power to enter into agreements with<br />
eligible bodies]] shall apply to Welsh Ministers in relation to<br />
Wales.’.<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: I shall speak to new clauses 2, 3,<br />
4, 5 and 5, and amendments 6 to 8.<br />
Part 6 will replace sea fisheries committees with inshore<br />
fisheries and conservation authorities—IFCAs—in<br />
England. These will have a duty to manage sea fisheries<br />
sustainably, balancing socio-economic benefits with<br />
protection of the marine environment. They will have<br />
more money and strengthened powers, while retaining<br />
local involvement in decision making. Under the current<br />
Bill model, IFCAs will lead on marine species management<br />
in the inshore area, including in estuaries. The Environment<br />
Agency will lead on protection for salmon, trout, other<br />
migratory species and freshwater fish in estuaries and as<br />
far out as the 6 nautical mile limit.<br />
As many hon. Members are aware, in January we<br />
launched a consultation on options for the number of<br />
future inshore fisheries and conservation districts. Following<br />
that consultation, I am happy to confirm that 10 IFC<br />
districts will be established, and the new IFCAs will be<br />
established with full powers and duties in April 2011.<br />
The Department will carry out more detailed consultation<br />
in 2010 to establish the exact landward and seaward<br />
boundaries of the new districts. I know that that<br />
announcement will be welcomed by all Members of the<br />
House.<br />
During a useful Commons Committee discussion on<br />
part 6, concerns were raised by a number of Members<br />
that the Bill as drafted did not provide sufficient flexibility<br />
to ensure the most joined-up inshore fisheries management,<br />
particularly in areas such as estuaries. In Committee,<br />
considerable pressure was exerted on us to amend the<br />
Bill so that IFCA functions can be delegated to the<br />
Environment Agency in particular, so that marine fisheries<br />
in estuaries could be managed in the most efficient way.<br />
To address this, we have tabled new clauses 2, 3, 4, 5<br />
and 6 and amendments 6, 7 and 8, which provide the<br />
option for IFCA functions to be delegated to the<br />
Environment Agency and to neighbouring IFCAs. An<br />
order-making power is provided to add to the list of<br />
eligible bodies so as to enable delegation to be made to<br />
other, named public bodies. Bodies can also be removed<br />
from the list.<br />
Bill Wiggin (Leominster) (Con): Will the Minister be<br />
kind enough to explain briefly why he has chosen the<br />
Environment Agency rather than the Marine Management<br />
Organisation for this function?<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: That is a good point. The Bill is<br />
future-proofed, in that the Secretary of State, with the<br />
agreement of an IFCA and partners on the ground,<br />
could agree in future to delegate to another body. That<br />
could be the MMO, another IFCA or the Environment<br />
Agency. It could be another body which, at this moment,<br />
I cannot imagine. We have future-proofed the Bill, but<br />
we have also made it clear that the Secretary of State<br />
can waive that delegation power. The purpose of the<br />
measures is to give that flexibility, recognising, as has<br />
been the focus of the Bill, that there will be local<br />
solutions on the ground. I am sure the hon. Gentleman<br />
will welcome that.<br />
Mr. Austin Mitchell (Great Grimsby) (Lab): I have no<br />
quarrel with or opposition to what is proposed, because<br />
it seems a sensible redistribution of functions to bodies<br />
best able to perform them. However, I should like my<br />
hon. Friend’s assurance that fishing, which has been<br />
excessively heavily burdened with regulations, will not<br />
be burdened with further regulations as a result of this<br />
reorganisation.<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: My hon. Friend, who is a stalwart<br />
advocate of the fisheries not only in terms of Grimsby,<br />
in his constituency, but throughout the UK, is right to<br />
raise the issue of fisheries’ regulation, but I assure him<br />
that the proposed changes would provide flexibility to<br />
ensure that the best organisation had responsibility for<br />
forward fisheries management locally and regionally.<br />
The proposed changes would not add any bureaucracy<br />
or regulation, and he can report back those assurances<br />
not only to his constituents, but to sea fishermen throughout<br />
the UK.<br />
4pm<br />
Andrew George (St. Ives) (LD): Do the Government’s<br />
proposed changes risk causing an unintended consequence?<br />
Sea fisheries committees already co-operate informally<br />
across borders, and they can assist each other, for<br />
example, with monitoring and enforcement measures.<br />
No formal agreements exist, but would the proposed<br />
changes require IFCAs to introduce such agreements?<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: No. The Bill includes a provision<br />
to formalise agreements on working across estuaries or<br />
water areas, but existing voluntary arrangements and<br />
the ability to work together across areas, including on<br />
enforcement and so on, will continue. The proposed<br />
changes would not hamper that arrangement, and we<br />
would not want that to happen. However, they are<br />
designed to respond to the concerns, rightly raised in<br />
Committee, that the demarcation of IFCAs and the<br />
Environment Agency represented a somewhat rigid<br />
approach to who was responsible, not least in upper<br />
estuary areas. The sole purpose of the proposed changes<br />
is to introduce flexibility; it is certainly not to override<br />
the effective existing partnerships with sea fisheries<br />
committees and others.<br />
The Bill already provides for MMO functions to be<br />
delegated to relevant bodies, including IFCAs, and our<br />
proposed changes would provide for a similar model of<br />
delegation for IFCA functions. I shall turn to the key