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19 Oral Answers<br />

26 OCTOBER 2009<br />

Oral Answers<br />

20<br />

people who know about this, they would point out that<br />

if young people wanted ASBOs as a badge of honour,<br />

why would they go to such extraordinary lengths to<br />

avoid them?<br />

T5. [295155] Ben Chapman (Wirral, South) (Lab):<br />

During a visit to an excellent open day at Wirral<br />

magistrates court last week, I discovered that the level<br />

of unpaid fines, despite considerable improvement,<br />

remained high. Obviously, if fines are not paid, their<br />

deterrent effect is reduced, so what measures are being<br />

taken by the Home Office, in conjunction with the<br />

department of legal affairs, to ensure that these unpaid<br />

fine levels are reduced?<br />

Alan Johnson: My hon. Friend mentions a “Ministry<br />

of Legal Affairs”, which sounds like something from<br />

“The Thick of It”. If he is talking about the Ministry of<br />

Justice, I can tell him that we work very closely with it.<br />

Unpaid fines are, of course, a matter for that Department<br />

and I know it is working very hard to ensure that they<br />

are paid. Indeed, it can point to statistics showing an<br />

incredible improvement over the last 10 years.<br />

T8. [295158] Mr. Edward Timpson (Crewe and Nantwich)<br />

(Con): In recent months, Crewe and Nantwich<br />

residents have been working in close partnership with<br />

the police in the fight against drugs on the streets.<br />

Although I am sure the Home Secretary would<br />

commend them for their actions, what can he tell them<br />

that the Government have planned to help to alleviate<br />

the administrative burden placed on the police in<br />

dealing with drugs crime?<br />

Alan Johnson: The administrative burden is not confined<br />

to drug crimes; it should be reduced to the absolute<br />

minimum for the police in all respects. We have had<br />

some incredible success on that in removing bureaucracy<br />

from the police’s shoulders. I recently made a speech<br />

saying that there is much further to go, which is why we<br />

asked Jan Berry, the former head of the Police Federation,<br />

to look at this for us and present a completely independent<br />

report to tell us where she thinks, from her vast personal<br />

knowledge and experience, we could do more to help.<br />

Her report is due very shortly.<br />

T6. [295156] David Taylor (North-West Leicestershire)<br />

(Lab/Co-op): The phrase “domestic extremism” is now<br />

widely employed by police forces seeking to control<br />

and classify many public demonstrations, even though<br />

they are legitimate and non-violent political protests.<br />

What guidance has the Home Secretary issued to chief<br />

constables on the definition and use of that phrase in<br />

this context?<br />

Alan Johnson: I have not issued any guidance on the<br />

definition of that phrase. The police know what they<br />

are doing and how to tackle such demonstrations, and<br />

they do so very effectively. A combination of the right<br />

legislation introduced by my predecessor, the right hon.<br />

Member for Norwich, South (Mr. Clarke), the police<br />

treating the matter as an absolute priority and other<br />

measures have led to far fewer problems as a result of<br />

animal rights extremism. That is one form of domestic<br />

extremism, and if the police want to use such a term, I<br />

would not fall to the floor clutching my box of Kleenex.<br />

It sounds like a sensible way to describe such forms of<br />

extremism.<br />

T9. [295159] Mr. Henry Bellingham (North-West Norfolk)<br />

(Con): Given that the Home Secretary has stated that it<br />

is in the interests of justice that the killers of Yvonne<br />

Fletcher are charged, why is the Met sitting on a<br />

Crown Prosecution Service-commissioned report that<br />

concluded that there is sufficient evidence to charge<br />

Matouk Matouk and Mohammed Baghdadi with<br />

conspiracy to murder?<br />

Alan Johnson: If the hon. Gentleman cares to contact<br />

me, I will consider that matter. I have not heard of the<br />

report he mentions, but we want to ensure that justice is<br />

done by Yvonne Fletcher. That has been our priority<br />

from the start, and that is why it was a major part of our<br />

discussions with Libya a few years ago.<br />

Ms Sally Keeble (Northampton, North) (Lab): When<br />

will my right hon. Friend bring forward the final code<br />

on alcohol sales, as promised in the Policing and Crime<br />

Bill? Will it deal with the problem of cut-price promotions<br />

in shops, pubs and clubs?<br />

Alan Johnson: On the latter question, I hope that the<br />

code will deal with that matter. On the former question,<br />

we have finished the consultation and are preparing a<br />

response that will be out soon.<br />

David Howarth (Cambridge) (LD): Further to the<br />

question asked by the hon. Member for North-West<br />

Leicestershire (David Taylor) about the alphabet soup<br />

of agencies that appears to have decided to put everyone<br />

in the country who protests about anything on a list of<br />

suspects, does the Home Secretary agree that that is an<br />

example of mission creep? It has gone beyond the<br />

original intention of dealing with violent animal rights<br />

extremists, and everyone else in the country who protests<br />

is now being treated in that way.<br />

Alan Johnson: I do not accept that, and I do not<br />

know why Liberal Democrat Members jump to that<br />

conclusion. The police are doing their job effectively.<br />

There was an issue around the G7 protest or the G20<br />

protest—one of the protests—earlier this year that led<br />

the police to look again at some of their procedures.<br />

The result of those deliberations will be contained in<br />

the White Paper on policing, which will be published<br />

shortly.<br />

Mr. Ian McCartney (Makerfield) (Lab): My right<br />

hon. Friend has been doing a lot of work behind the<br />

scenes to introduce a scheme to assist British citizens<br />

who are victims of terror abroad. May I ask him when<br />

the Government are likely to introduce a scheme and<br />

make some announcement? The victims of Bali, Mumbai<br />

and Sharm el-Sheikh and their families have waited far<br />

too long to get compensation for the brutal attacks,<br />

deaths and injuries that they have had to put up with<br />

over the past decade or so?<br />

Alan Johnson: I commend my right hon. Friend for<br />

his work in this connection. As he will know, the Prime<br />

Minister and the Government are keen to introduce a<br />

scheme whereby those British people injured in terrorist

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