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19 Oral Answers<br />
26 OCTOBER 2009<br />
Oral Answers<br />
20<br />
people who know about this, they would point out that<br />
if young people wanted ASBOs as a badge of honour,<br />
why would they go to such extraordinary lengths to<br />
avoid them?<br />
T5. [295155] Ben Chapman (Wirral, South) (Lab):<br />
During a visit to an excellent open day at Wirral<br />
magistrates court last week, I discovered that the level<br />
of unpaid fines, despite considerable improvement,<br />
remained high. Obviously, if fines are not paid, their<br />
deterrent effect is reduced, so what measures are being<br />
taken by the Home Office, in conjunction with the<br />
department of legal affairs, to ensure that these unpaid<br />
fine levels are reduced?<br />
Alan Johnson: My hon. Friend mentions a “Ministry<br />
of Legal Affairs”, which sounds like something from<br />
“The Thick of It”. If he is talking about the Ministry of<br />
Justice, I can tell him that we work very closely with it.<br />
Unpaid fines are, of course, a matter for that Department<br />
and I know it is working very hard to ensure that they<br />
are paid. Indeed, it can point to statistics showing an<br />
incredible improvement over the last 10 years.<br />
T8. [295158] Mr. Edward Timpson (Crewe and Nantwich)<br />
(Con): In recent months, Crewe and Nantwich<br />
residents have been working in close partnership with<br />
the police in the fight against drugs on the streets.<br />
Although I am sure the Home Secretary would<br />
commend them for their actions, what can he tell them<br />
that the Government have planned to help to alleviate<br />
the administrative burden placed on the police in<br />
dealing with drugs crime?<br />
Alan Johnson: The administrative burden is not confined<br />
to drug crimes; it should be reduced to the absolute<br />
minimum for the police in all respects. We have had<br />
some incredible success on that in removing bureaucracy<br />
from the police’s shoulders. I recently made a speech<br />
saying that there is much further to go, which is why we<br />
asked Jan Berry, the former head of the Police Federation,<br />
to look at this for us and present a completely independent<br />
report to tell us where she thinks, from her vast personal<br />
knowledge and experience, we could do more to help.<br />
Her report is due very shortly.<br />
T6. [295156] David Taylor (North-West Leicestershire)<br />
(Lab/Co-op): The phrase “domestic extremism” is now<br />
widely employed by police forces seeking to control<br />
and classify many public demonstrations, even though<br />
they are legitimate and non-violent political protests.<br />
What guidance has the Home Secretary issued to chief<br />
constables on the definition and use of that phrase in<br />
this context?<br />
Alan Johnson: I have not issued any guidance on the<br />
definition of that phrase. The police know what they<br />
are doing and how to tackle such demonstrations, and<br />
they do so very effectively. A combination of the right<br />
legislation introduced by my predecessor, the right hon.<br />
Member for Norwich, South (Mr. Clarke), the police<br />
treating the matter as an absolute priority and other<br />
measures have led to far fewer problems as a result of<br />
animal rights extremism. That is one form of domestic<br />
extremism, and if the police want to use such a term, I<br />
would not fall to the floor clutching my box of Kleenex.<br />
It sounds like a sensible way to describe such forms of<br />
extremism.<br />
T9. [295159] Mr. Henry Bellingham (North-West Norfolk)<br />
(Con): Given that the Home Secretary has stated that it<br />
is in the interests of justice that the killers of Yvonne<br />
Fletcher are charged, why is the Met sitting on a<br />
Crown Prosecution Service-commissioned report that<br />
concluded that there is sufficient evidence to charge<br />
Matouk Matouk and Mohammed Baghdadi with<br />
conspiracy to murder?<br />
Alan Johnson: If the hon. Gentleman cares to contact<br />
me, I will consider that matter. I have not heard of the<br />
report he mentions, but we want to ensure that justice is<br />
done by Yvonne Fletcher. That has been our priority<br />
from the start, and that is why it was a major part of our<br />
discussions with Libya a few years ago.<br />
Ms Sally Keeble (Northampton, North) (Lab): When<br />
will my right hon. Friend bring forward the final code<br />
on alcohol sales, as promised in the Policing and Crime<br />
Bill? Will it deal with the problem of cut-price promotions<br />
in shops, pubs and clubs?<br />
Alan Johnson: On the latter question, I hope that the<br />
code will deal with that matter. On the former question,<br />
we have finished the consultation and are preparing a<br />
response that will be out soon.<br />
David Howarth (Cambridge) (LD): Further to the<br />
question asked by the hon. Member for North-West<br />
Leicestershire (David Taylor) about the alphabet soup<br />
of agencies that appears to have decided to put everyone<br />
in the country who protests about anything on a list of<br />
suspects, does the Home Secretary agree that that is an<br />
example of mission creep? It has gone beyond the<br />
original intention of dealing with violent animal rights<br />
extremists, and everyone else in the country who protests<br />
is now being treated in that way.<br />
Alan Johnson: I do not accept that, and I do not<br />
know why Liberal Democrat Members jump to that<br />
conclusion. The police are doing their job effectively.<br />
There was an issue around the G7 protest or the G20<br />
protest—one of the protests—earlier this year that led<br />
the police to look again at some of their procedures.<br />
The result of those deliberations will be contained in<br />
the White Paper on policing, which will be published<br />
shortly.<br />
Mr. Ian McCartney (Makerfield) (Lab): My right<br />
hon. Friend has been doing a lot of work behind the<br />
scenes to introduce a scheme to assist British citizens<br />
who are victims of terror abroad. May I ask him when<br />
the Government are likely to introduce a scheme and<br />
make some announcement? The victims of Bali, Mumbai<br />
and Sharm el-Sheikh and their families have waited far<br />
too long to get compensation for the brutal attacks,<br />
deaths and injuries that they have had to put up with<br />
over the past decade or so?<br />
Alan Johnson: I commend my right hon. Friend for<br />
his work in this connection. As he will know, the Prime<br />
Minister and the Government are keen to introduce a<br />
scheme whereby those British people injured in terrorist