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1775 Augmentative and Alternative 6 JUNE 2013 Augmentative and Alternative 1776<br />

Communication Services<br />

Communication Services<br />

only way that the hub-and-spoke model can work effectively<br />

is if the hub can train up more people in the spokes to<br />

deliver the more complex tools. Complexity is at the<br />

heart of the problem in the structure. AAC is one of five<br />

areas for which complex disability equipment is to be<br />

commissioned nationally—incidentally, another is artificial<br />

eyes, the national centre for which is based in my<br />

constituency. It would be remiss of me not to congratulate<br />

that centre during an Adjournment debate on a parallel<br />

issue. As I was saying, though, complexity is the key: it<br />

determines whether a patient is treated at the hub or at<br />

the spoke.<br />

A stroke patient will receive a relatively straightforward<br />

medical diagnosis—it might be a devastating incident in<br />

their personal life, but its medical nature is relatively<br />

simple. None the less, what will restore the power of<br />

communication to someone who has lost it will be a<br />

complex piece of kit, yet under the current rules, as I<br />

understand them, it would be commissioned in the<br />

spoke. If the skills are not t<strong>here</strong> to utilise that piece of<br />

equipment, that stroke patient will not benefit, so complexity<br />

of need has to be balanced by the complexity of the<br />

product being supplied. That is crucial.<br />

The other issue on which I want to draw out the<br />

Minister is the concerns of worried providers in the<br />

voluntary sector about their ability to bid for commissions<br />

from NHS England. T<strong>here</strong> has been a long-running<br />

battle over whether AAC should be based in the education<br />

or the health sector. It is now clear that it will be based<br />

in the health sector, but one of the key elements of what<br />

NHS England seeks to commission is an educational<br />

component in a multi-disciplinary team. That component<br />

is most often found in organisations such as the ACE<br />

Centre, the Dame Hannah Rogers Trust, near the<br />

constituency of my hon. Friend the Member for Totnes<br />

(Dr Wollaston), or the Percy Hedley school, up in<br />

the constituency of the hon. Member for Blaydon<br />

(Mr Anderson). They all have immense expertise, yet<br />

they greatly fear that the mood music emanating from<br />

NHS England suggests that they will be unable to bid<br />

for such provision, because of an understanding that it<br />

must be supplied by an NHS provider. That seems<br />

strange, given all that the Government have said down<br />

the years about trying to ensure a broader spectrum of<br />

provision—that more civil society organisations can<br />

provide such services. I hope the Minister can provide<br />

some reassurance on that.<br />

I would also like a commitment from the Minister—this<br />

is another fundamental aspect—that this really is a<br />

health issue and no longer just an education issue. I<br />

hear far too many heartbreaking stories of children<br />

who are equipped with complex equipment when in<br />

school but, because it is funded by the Department for<br />

Education, lose it when they leave. It is not just a piece<br />

of kit they are losing; it is their ability to express<br />

themselves as fully formed adults. That is why it is so<br />

important that this becomes a health issue, not just an<br />

education issue.<br />

My final query is rather technical—I beg the Minister’s<br />

forgiveness, but this goes back to acting like a statin in<br />

NHS England. A clinical reference group has been set<br />

up, but it has yet to meet—it is in a form of limbo, as it<br />

were. T<strong>here</strong> is yet greater uncertainty, not merely because<br />

it has not met, but because the gentleman who chairs it,<br />

one Dr Thursfield, is shortly to retire from his academic<br />

post at the University of Birmingham. T<strong>here</strong> is grave<br />

concern that his uncertain status in the clinical reference<br />

group is imperilling its ability to meet, take decisions<br />

and do its job. Alexis Egerton—the gentleman I mentioned<br />

earlier—was disappointed not to be appointed as a<br />

patient representative on the clinical reference group. I<br />

have known Alexis since my youngest days. He did his<br />

PhD on the funding of AAC provision, and it would be<br />

immensely valuable to the Government and the nation<br />

as a whole if we could find a way to allow him to play a<br />

role in that.<br />

Finally—I want to ensure that the Minister has time<br />

to respond fully—will he bear in mind that the right to<br />

have a voice is a fundamental human right? We have an<br />

opportunity in this place to represent our constituents.<br />

If, in doing so, we give a voice to some who hitherto did<br />

not have one, we will have spent a useful half-hour in<br />

this debate. I look forward to hearing the Minister’s<br />

response.<br />

Cathy Jamieson (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (Lab/Coop):<br />

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I apologise<br />

to hon. Members for having to raise this point of order<br />

at the end of a passionate speech in an important<br />

debate. I seek your guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. Today<br />

I had a telephone call from someone in the press asking<br />

me to comment on a parliamentary question I had<br />

asked and for which they had the answer. Unfortunately<br />

I was not party to that answer, as it had not been<br />

delivered to me. When I contacted the Table Office, it<br />

could not elucidate either. I was, however, able to obtain<br />

a scanned copy from the press. Would you agree,<br />

Mr Deputy Speaker, that this is not the way to conduct<br />

business and ensure that Members are appropriately<br />

briefed?<br />

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle): It certainly<br />

is not good form; in fact, it is very bad form. The<br />

Member should always know at least at the same time,<br />

but preferably before. The matter is now on record and<br />

I hope that those on the Front Bench will pass it on, so<br />

that we can get to the bottom of it.<br />

5.14 pm<br />

The Minister of State, Department of Health (Norman<br />

Lamb): I am really grateful to my hon. Friend the<br />

Member for Blackpool North and Cleveleys (Paul<br />

Maynard) for raising this issue, and for his work, together<br />

with that of colleagues, as a member of the all-party<br />

parliamentary group on speech and language difficulties.<br />

An occasion such as this is particularly valuable, as was<br />

the meeting that we had yesterday, in ensuring that<br />

Ministers focus on issues that might otherwise not get<br />

attention. I learned a lot from the meeting yesterday,<br />

and from my hon. Friend’s impassioned speech today.<br />

He clearly speaks with real authority on this subject. I<br />

was struck by his point about the lad who ended up<br />

with a PhD as a result of the support that these facilities<br />

can provide. He made the point very powerfully that<br />

they can change lives.<br />

Augmentative and alternative or assistive communication<br />

is one of the more specialised areas of health and<br />

education provision. The number of children who will<br />

require support in this way is relatively small, perhaps<br />

less than 0.5% of the population, so it is important that<br />

we do not lose sight of them. My hon. Friend rightly<br />

made the point that the ability to speak and communicate<br />

is a pretty basic human right, and that it should be<br />

recognised as such.

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