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1669 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 6 JUNE 2013 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 1670 [Mr Prisk] today is make sure that the balance in discussions is correct at the local level and at the appeal level, so that there is an appropriate level of decision making. I am not going to be drawn into individual applications, as he will understand. Philip Davies (Shipley) (Con): I welcome what the Minister has said—as, I am sure, will many of my constituents, particularly those in Denholme who have been battling against a wholly inappropriate proposal for a wind farm—but can he tell us what safeguards will be provided for local residents? My constituents have become accustomed to Labour-run Bradford council’s practice of sending its councillors over to parts of the constituency, riding roughshod over the wishes of local councillors and residents, and imposing unpopular decisions on them. What safeguards will be introduced to stop Labour councils such as Bradford imposing decisions on my constituents, contrary to the recommendations of the guidance? Mr Prisk: Our key purpose in making these changes is to ensure that the voice of local people is stronger. My hon. Friend is evidently experiencing a difficulty with the local Labour council, which I must say does sound shocking, but I am sure that, in his usual terrier-like manner, he will ensure that it understands what it is doing wrong. Valerie Vaz (Walsall South) (Lab): Whether we are talking about a change of policy or a change of guidance, will the Minister tell us what prior consultation he has had with local planning authorities? Mr Prisk: The call for evidence produced responses relating to some 1,100 applications, in respect of both the planning and the energy aspects. Those responses have been very useful, and have come from all the parties to whom the hon. Lady has referred. Julian Sturdy (York Outer) (Con): I welcome my hon. Friend’s statement. In my constituency, the council’s draft local plan proposes the development of 40 new wind farm sites on green belt land. What message would my hon. Friend send to a council which is intending to impose those sites, in environmentally sensitive areas, on local communities that are deeply opposed to them? Mr Prisk: I think the message would be that the Government have listened carefully to what local people say about the way in which planning has been applied and why they are concerned about it. We want to ensure that their voice is clear and loud and listened to. Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con): Does the Minister agree that today’s announcement is a further demonstration of the Government’s commitment to the principles of localism in planning, which—starting with neighbourhood plans—ensure that local communities have a greater say both when supporting and when opposing development in their areas? Mr Prisk: The Secretary of State and I are strongly committed to ensuring that local voices are heard in the planning system. This is a legal process, and we need to ensure that it is conducted appropriately, but as my hon. Friend says, we are a localist Government with clear localist principles. Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con): There is an increasing perception among many people who have opposed wind turbine applications in my beautiful part of Yorkshire that local wishes have been overruled in favour of energy suppliers and landowners who have been pocketing the subsidies. Does the Minister agree that if such applications are to be approved, they must have the support of those local communities and they must benefit those local communities? Mr Prisk: I know that my hon. Friend is an ardent campaigner on this issue, and his constituents are fortunate in that regard. He is right: we must ensure that local voices are very clear so that proper, balanced decisions are made, and people are not made to feel that their own considerations have been ridden over roughshod. Mr Tobias Ellwood (Bournemouth East) (Con): I agree with my hon. Friend and neighbour the Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope) that there is a logic to extending community powers relating to onshore to offshore wind farms. As the Minister knows, there is a plan to build a rather large wind farm off our constituencies, and its proximity to the coast is concerning residents. Mr Prisk: I understand that. My hon. Friend is another powerful campaigner, and I think it important for his campaign to continue. However, as I said earlier, I think it wiser for me to keep my feet on dry ground. Andrew Bridgen (North West Leicestershire) (Con): I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-Harris) on his urgent question, and also on his consistent and informed leadership on this subject from the Back Benches. I welcome the announcement of a change in the planning rules relating to wind farms, but may I suggest that if one wants to look green one builds wind farms, whereas if one wants to be green, one should build them only where they will be effective and acceptable to local communities? Mr Prisk: As I said in my statement, we have an energy issue to deal with, but renewables must be sited appropriately. My hon. Friend is absolutely right to draw attention to that, and we want to ensure that it happens. Miss Anne McIntosh (Thirsk and Malton) (Con): There will be joy in North Yorkshire at this decision, which will be good for the environment and good for the countryside, but may I tempt my hon. Friend to specify the more significant onshore wind farm developments, and explain how that term will be interpreted? Mr Prisk: I am delighted to be tempted by my hon. Friend, and as I said earlier, what is more significant is trying to make sure we do not unintentionally snare the small single turbine in someone’s back garden. This is about making sure we have consideration about the massing, the size and, indeed, the height, and we will set that out clearly in the secondary legislation.

1671 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 6 JUNE 2013 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 1672 Annette Brooke (Mid Dorset and North Poole) (LD): I find myself much in accord with the Minister’s expressions of support for balance, as that is absolutely right, but I have some concerns that the pendulum might swing too far the other way. Will he be carefully monitoring things as the new guidance is implemented? Mr Prisk: I will certainly monitor where the pendulum sits with the greatest of care. Stephen Barclay (North East Cambridgeshire) (Con): In joining colleagues in welcoming the announcement, may I pay tribute to the work of my right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes) on this issue? May I push the Minister to be clear that where an appeal has concluded taking evidence but the inspector has not published their decision, today’s announcement will be taken into account, because that will give great comfort to my constituents, particularly those in Tydd St Giles, who are awaiting a decision on 17 July? Mr Prisk: Where no decision has been published, as would be the case for local planners at that stage in the process, planning inspectors will now have to give consideration to this change in the guidance. Mr David Nuttall (Bury North) (Con): My constituents in Bury North will warmly welcome this statement. Many of them can already see a massive wind farm development over at Scout Moor, but it is very often the individual turbines going here, there and everywhere across my constituency that create a great deal of concern. Can the Minister confirm that these guidelines will apply to individual turbine applications, as well as those for large farms, which may already be affecting the landscape? Mr Prisk: As I said earlier, we are trying to make sure that the principal concern people have about the impact, and particularly the cumulative impact, is properly and clearly set out in the guidance. That will make sure that decisions on the kinds of application to which my hon. Friend refers will be influenced in the same way. Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con): I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton- Harris) on leading the campaign against wind farms in this House, and I have a sneaking feeling that I can detect the hand of my right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes) in this new revised policy. Until now, planning applications were refused for wind farms, but on appeal were granted. Under this new guidance, as I understand it, if local councils act properly and say no to a wind farm, normally they will not be overturned on appeal. Am I right in thinking that? Mr Prisk: My hon. Friend is right to highlight that there have been a number of contributions in this particular debate. What I would say to him is that we want to make sure the system is balanced. What most constituents have been concerned about—I am, perhaps, speaking now as a constituency MP—is that they feel their views are ridden roughshod over. That is what my hon. Friend referred to, and that is what we are seeking to correct. Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD): I note the Minister’s emphasis on significant and cumulative impact. Does he agree that minimum separation distances, as espoused by Wiltshire council, are arbitrary and therefore totally incapable of taking that into account? Mr Prisk: We are not promoting buffer zones, as I think they are known in that context. We are a localist Government, and we want to make sure that the councils, which are accountable to their local electorates, take the appropriate decisions. The fact that we have specifically highlighted the issue of cumulative impact can, I think, give my hon. Friend some reassurance. Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole) (Con): In addition to the turbines we already have, sometimes turning, in my constituency, we have 70 further ones consented, the largest development being for 34 turbines on the Isle of Axholme, which was granted by the previous Government on appeal, against the wishes of local people. Just yesterday another wind farm application was rejected, and a couple of weeks ago I spoke at an appeal against yet another wind farm application. Therefore, while I welcome the announcement, as will my constituents, may I urge the Minister to do a full and thorough review of how the appeal system works, because it is often at that point that my constituents are let down, not by their democratically elected councillors? Mr Prisk: I understand that point, and the Secretary of State, the planning Minister, my hon. Friend the Member for Grantham and Stamford (Nick Boles), and I are all very much aware of the need to make sure planning at the local level and at appeals runs appropriately, and we will always give consideration to representations. Andrew Jones (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (Con): I welcome the statement, which will also be welcomed by the constituents of Harrogate and Knaresborough, where there have been significant concerns about developments of a proposed wind farm along the Knabs ridge area. Does the Minister agree that the measures announced will help to address the confusion and anger about the fact that local landscapes and local environments can be damaged in the name of protecting our environment? Mr Prisk: I know that my hon. Friend is a fantastic campaigner for local people in his glorious part of Yorkshire. I think he is absolutely right and he can now say to his constituents that this is a Government who are on their side. Guy Opperman (Hexham) (Con): This is wonderful news and the result of a long campaign. I welcome the announcement, because in Northumberland we have sporadic applications and sporadic wind farms that have no impact other than destroying the landscape in a very bad way. Cumulative impact is a massive issue, but how will it go into a local development plan when a local authority has not completed a local development plan thus far?

1671 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 6 JUNE 2013 Onshore Wind (Planning Policy) 1672<br />

Annette Brooke (Mid Dorset and North Poole) (LD):<br />

I find myself much in accord with the Minister’s expressions<br />

of support for balance, as that is absolutely right, but I<br />

have some concerns that the pendulum might swing too<br />

far the other way. Will he be carefully monitoring things<br />

as the new guidance is implemented?<br />

Mr Prisk: I will certainly monitor w<strong>here</strong> the pendulum<br />

sits with the greatest of care.<br />

Stephen Barclay (North East Cambridgeshire) (Con):<br />

In joining colleagues in welcoming the announcement,<br />

may I pay tribute to the work of my right hon. Friend<br />

the Member for South Holland and The Deepings<br />

(Mr Hayes) on this issue?<br />

May I push the Minister to be clear that w<strong>here</strong> an<br />

appeal has concluded taking evidence but the inspector<br />

has not published their decision, today’s announcement<br />

will be taken into account, because that will give great<br />

comfort to my constituents, particularly those in Tydd<br />

St Giles, who are awaiting a decision on 17 July?<br />

Mr Prisk: W<strong>here</strong> no decision has been published, as<br />

would be the case for local planners at that stage in the<br />

process, planning inspectors will now have to give<br />

consideration to this change in the guidance.<br />

Mr David Nuttall (Bury North) (Con): My constituents<br />

in Bury North will warmly welcome this statement.<br />

Many of them can already see a massive wind farm<br />

development over at Scout Moor, but it is very often the<br />

individual turbines going <strong>here</strong>, t<strong>here</strong> and everyw<strong>here</strong><br />

across my constituency that create a great deal of concern.<br />

Can the Minister confirm that these guidelines will<br />

apply to individual turbine applications, as well as those<br />

for large farms, which may already be affecting the<br />

landscape?<br />

Mr Prisk: As I said earlier, we are trying to make sure<br />

that the principal concern people have about the impact,<br />

and particularly the cumulative impact, is properly and<br />

clearly set out in the guidance. That will make sure that<br />

decisions on the kinds of application to which my hon.<br />

Friend refers will be influenced in the same way.<br />

Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con): I congratulate<br />

my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-<br />

Harris) on leading the campaign against wind farms in<br />

this House, and I have a sneaking feeling that I can<br />

detect the hand of my right hon. Friend the Member for<br />

South Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes) in this<br />

new revised policy.<br />

Until now, planning applications were refused for<br />

wind farms, but on appeal were granted. Under this<br />

new guidance, as I understand it, if local councils act<br />

properly and say no to a wind farm, normally they will<br />

not be overturned on appeal. Am I right in thinking<br />

that?<br />

Mr Prisk: My hon. Friend is right to highlight that<br />

t<strong>here</strong> have been a number of contributions in this<br />

particular debate. What I would say to him is that we<br />

want to make sure the system is balanced. What most<br />

constituents have been concerned about—I am, perhaps,<br />

speaking now as a constituency MP—is that they feel<br />

their views are ridden roughshod over. That is what my<br />

hon. Friend referred to, and that is what we are seeking<br />

to correct.<br />

Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD): I note the Minister’s<br />

emphasis on significant and cumulative impact. Does<br />

he agree that minimum separation distances, as espoused<br />

by Wiltshire council, are arbitrary and t<strong>here</strong>fore totally<br />

incapable of taking that into account?<br />

Mr Prisk: We are not promoting buffer zones, as I<br />

think they are known in that context. We are a localist<br />

Government, and we want to make sure that the councils,<br />

which are accountable to their local electorates, take the<br />

appropriate decisions. The fact that we have specifically<br />

highlighted the issue of cumulative impact can, I think,<br />

give my hon. Friend some reassurance.<br />

Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole) (Con): In addition<br />

to the turbines we already have, sometimes turning, in<br />

my constituency, we have 70 further ones consented, the<br />

largest development being for 34 turbines on the Isle of<br />

Axholme, which was granted by the previous Government<br />

on appeal, against the wishes of local people. Just<br />

yesterday another wind farm application was rejected,<br />

and a couple of weeks ago I spoke at an appeal against<br />

yet another wind farm application. T<strong>here</strong>fore, while I<br />

welcome the announcement, as will my constituents,<br />

may I urge the Minister to do a full and thorough<br />

review of how the appeal system works, because it is<br />

often at that point that my constituents are let down,<br />

not by their democratically elected councillors?<br />

Mr Prisk: I understand that point, and the Secretary<br />

of State, the planning Minister, my hon. Friend the<br />

Member for Grantham and Stamford (Nick Boles), and<br />

I are all very much aware of the need to make sure<br />

planning at the local level and at appeals runs appropriately,<br />

and we will always give consideration to representations.<br />

Andrew Jones (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (Con):<br />

I welcome the statement, which will also be welcomed<br />

by the constituents of Harrogate and Knaresborough,<br />

w<strong>here</strong> t<strong>here</strong> have been significant concerns about<br />

developments of a proposed wind farm along the Knabs<br />

ridge area. Does the Minister agree that the measures<br />

announced will help to address the confusion and anger<br />

about the fact that local landscapes and local environments<br />

can be damaged in the name of protecting our environment?<br />

Mr Prisk: I know that my hon. Friend is a fantastic<br />

campaigner for local people in his glorious part of<br />

Yorkshire. I think he is absolutely right and he can now<br />

say to his constituents that this is a Government who<br />

are on their side.<br />

Guy Opperman (Hexham) (Con): This is wonderful<br />

news and the result of a long campaign. I welcome the<br />

announcement, because in Northumberland we have<br />

sporadic applications and sporadic wind farms that<br />

have no impact other than destroying the landscape in a<br />

very bad way. Cumulative impact is a massive issue, but<br />

how will it go into a local development plan when a<br />

local authority has not completed a local development<br />

plan thus far?

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