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Roundtable <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> Banks<br />

tion among the rating agencies would seem necessary. However, it is likely to take many years<br />

before a new agency is established, as it would first have to earn investors’ confidence and be<br />

politically desired.<br />

HB: For <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> issuers wishing to place <strong>Pfandbrief</strong>e, there is no alternative to a rating.<br />

Banks which issue <strong>Pfandbrief</strong>e internationally and on a regular basis are even expected to provide<br />

two ratings. This makes it difficult to arrive at the necessary trade-off.<br />

BW: It is an unfortunate fact that covered bond ratings today depend primarily on the amount<br />

of overcollateralization, and that the quality of the legal framework which regulates covered<br />

bonds plays only a secondary role. After Fitch, in early 2009, downgraded the <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> ratings<br />

of <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> banks specializing in commercial property finance to “watch negative”,<br />

we consciously opted for an AA+ rating. But since investors face increasingly more – not less<br />

– regulatory requirements that are based on external ratings, issuers will have to continue having<br />

their <strong>Pfandbrief</strong>e rated by one of the agencies.<br />

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6.<br />

Investors suspect that a new bubble will result from real estate finance providers<br />

changing their business strategy to make commercial real estate their new core<br />

business. How will the trade-off between secured income and greater risk as well as<br />

stronger pressure on margins be reached?<br />

TS: For us, international commercial property finance is not a new core business field, but one<br />

we have engaged in for 20 years. Wide regional diversification substantially reduces dependence<br />

on individual real estate cycles and allows <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> investors to invest in a professionally<br />

managed International property portfolio.<br />

BW: For many years now, we have regarded commercial property finance – alongside credit<br />

for housing associations and cooperatives to finance multi-family dwellings – as our core<br />

business. In the past years, well over 90% of our new lending activities have at all times been<br />

categorized in the risk classes 1-7 of the DSGV master scale. Put simply, this is equivalent to<br />

the school grades “very good” and “good”. A conservative risk profile will remain our leitmotif<br />

in the future.<br />

7.<br />

Exactly what constitutes the “right” mortgage lending value was the subject of<br />

debate, particularly before the financial market crisis. In many European countries,<br />

mortgage lending limits sometimes clearly above 60% are permitted. What is more,<br />

these are often based on the market value rather than the mortgage lending value,<br />

the measure commonly used in Germany. Can raising the mortgage lending limit be<br />

justified? How high should it be for commercial loans and private mortgages?<br />

RG: Thanks not least to the conservative valuation approach applied, the <strong>Pfandbrief</strong> is the<br />

highest-quality product in the covered bond world. Given the proven low risk provisioning in<br />

the housing finance business, a higher mortgage lending value would be justifiable; investors<br />

would still recognize the high quality of the <strong>Pfandbrief</strong>.

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