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Chernobyl Nuclear Accident Congressional Hearings Transcript

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tumor registries together. There are people coming to the United<br />

States. This is a process that is going to go on for a long time.<br />

Our project, as I say, looked at anemia. I don't think there's any<br />

reason to go back and look at anemia again. That's clear. One<br />

needs to focus now down on the issues of leukemia and thyroid<br />

cancer and spend the money on issues that in fact make sense<br />

where we were not able to deal with issues. One of the things he<br />

pointed out was cytogenetics. We found some semi-unusual things<br />

both in clean and controlled villages, and we said, "Look, this is<br />

unusual, and it needs further study." So I think one needs to<br />

progress and not go back and repeat everjrthing we did.<br />

Senator Lieberman. But although there is some disagreement between<br />

you and most of the rest of the panel on the report, I take it<br />

that you would agree that there ought to be continuing monitoring<br />

of the high-risk groups and efforts to improve the medical infrastructure?<br />

Dr. Mettler. Sure. This was in our recommendations. Absolutely,<br />

yes. And particularly with regard to leukemia and thyroid,<br />

which is in fact now what most people are focusing on, and I think<br />

that's reasonable.<br />

Senator Lieberman. Dr. Matkiwsky, Dr. Werteleckyj and you<br />

mentioned a series of steps—I could call them humanitarian medical—that<br />

we might take. What's your counsel to Senator Graham<br />

and me about what we as two concerned U.S. Senators should put<br />

as their priorities here? Acknowledging obviously the limited resources,<br />

but nonetheless, the severity of the problem calls for some<br />

reaction.<br />

Dr. Matkiwsky. I would like to just speak to the more medical<br />

problems rather than scientific problems or concerns. Primarily we<br />

are interested in obviously the immediate help in situations, such<br />

desperate need for antibiotics and medications in general, but also<br />

to preserve the very young children, especially in the cardiac defects,<br />

which appears to be much larger than it was before, and you<br />

have 8,000 or 9,000 small infants dying every year from cardiac defects<br />

whereas in the United States or other western world you can<br />

save 90 percent of these by surgery. The Ukraine does not have<br />

such facility to take care of that, especially now when you have a<br />

negative birth and death ratio.<br />

Another area is in neonatology/ paranatology, where a lot of children<br />

also die in those areas, and they have absolutely no facility<br />

whatsoever to preserve those infants immediately after birth and<br />

to save them.<br />

These centers we are trying to develop from a foundation point<br />

of view, and we would like to obtain some help from the United<br />

States and other Russian countries to develop these centers to preserve<br />

those infants and children in general, and also develop a<br />

good, sound di£ignostic hospital within these facilities that we are<br />

talking about so that you have an adequate type of procedure to do<br />

studies and diagnostic procedures.<br />

Dr. Mettler. Can I make one point here? That is that I don't<br />

think anybody disagrees that the quality of medicine is a real problem<br />

in many areas, but let's just take this cardiac defect issue. You<br />

take children and you start looking at children, you're going to see<br />

defects that are sort of subclinical. There is no study in the scientif-

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