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Chernobyl Nuclear Accident Congressional Hearings Transcript

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We find<br />

that as a glimmer that there is a problem and jump on it.<br />

them, we take enforcement action.<br />

So I think these issues get a lot more attention now than they<br />

did pre-TMI. It does not mean that the safety record was worse; I<br />

would like to think it means that we are getting on problems<br />

before they turn into real problems.<br />

Senator Domenici. I thank the Senator.<br />

Senator Bumpers. Thank you, Senator. In the same article, Mr.<br />

Denton, it says that two declarations by the five-member panel,<br />

last year, sum up what critics consider to be a laissez faire regulatory<br />

philosophy. Four months after the Commission projected a 45<br />

percent probability of a severe reactor core meltdown within the<br />

next 20 years—45, that is almost a 50 percent probability—the<br />

Commission concluded that today's plants pose no undue level of<br />

risk to the public.<br />

That seems to me a contradiction, is it not?<br />

Mr. Denton. That I think is the issue which has bedeviled the<br />

Commission with regard to how safe is safe enough? We have, as<br />

the staff of the Commission, estimates on what the probability is of<br />

TMI-type accidents occurring again in this country, or worse accidents<br />

occurring in this country.<br />

We can give them probability and consequences. They make the<br />

judgments on what is safe enough in terms of the level of safety. I<br />

think safety in some sense can be judged by the individual who<br />

asks "safe compared to what?" They made the statement and I<br />

would prefer that they give you their basis for having said that.<br />

Senator Bumpers. Mr. Denton, I am going to introduce a bill<br />

today calling for the President and others, and I won't go into<br />

detail on the legislation, to appoint a 12-person commission to get<br />

deeply involved in the study of nuclear safety issues.<br />

you feel about that?<br />

How would<br />

The reason I did this is because I remember when the shuttle exploded<br />

and people were calling and saying, if the appoint a blue<br />

ribbon panel to study this, I would certainly like to be on it. I was<br />

saying, listen, nobody has the integrity that NASA has. I am sure<br />

there will be an in-house study here that will be great, and clarify<br />

this whole thing. I know they have done everything they can possibly<br />

do.<br />

It never occurred to me what was going to come out of the blue<br />

ribbon panel's investigation of the shuttle accident. I<br />

am not suggesting<br />

the NRC is in the same boat, but I think just for my own<br />

feelings about it, and the feelings of the American people, who<br />

have a right to be assured that we are doing all we can—and I am<br />

not just suggesting a one-shot deal. Independent safety reviews<br />

ought to be done periodically.<br />

Do you have any objection to that?<br />

Mr. Denton. Senator, my own personal opinion, having worked<br />

in this agency for 20 years, is I would stay with the single administrator<br />

approach that is pending before Congress. I think by having<br />

five commissioners we have not clearly selected a course of action<br />

all of the time. I would prefer a single administrator that you could<br />

hold accountable, that would give the staff marching orders and it<br />

would be clear that we are carrying out the mandate of Congress.

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