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not see that there is a connection between living and death. 'Life is a rehearsal to death' when you are giving<br />

yourself away before dying. Life is loaded with richness for those who are able to give, but absolutely terrifying<br />

for those who are not. This argument w<strong>as</strong> supported by the Christian teachings about poverty. Not being loaded<br />

with materialistic baggage makes people let go of things e<strong>as</strong>ier, be able to sacrifice, and accept dying and giving.<br />

The discussion swells to include another important <strong>as</strong>pect, forgiveness and its ambiguous meaning. Eagleton<br />

describes forgiveness <strong>as</strong> a kind of sacrifice, because it includes giving something very ple<strong>as</strong>urable, revenge. It is<br />

also seen <strong>as</strong> a way of breaking the endless circle of retribution. Forgiveness, Eagleton explains, does not mean<br />

that you forget or behave like you have forgotten. Confronting the p<strong>as</strong>t is vital to move forward in life.<br />

Eagleton ends his discussion by emph<strong>as</strong>izing that forgiveness does not mean feeling good about the offender. It<br />

is an act that h<strong>as</strong> nothing to do with feeling. Just like love, <strong>as</strong> Wittgenstein suggests, is not a feeling. Love is not<br />

about loving friends, it is about loving strangers. 'It is a state of create in action, that something comes out of<br />

nothing, like God's creation, it is a gift not a necessity.'<br />

---<br />

Interview with Terry Eagleton<br />

Rachel Holland and Chloe Buckley, Lanc<strong>as</strong>ter University<br />

Terry Eagleton is Distinguished Professor of English Literature at Lanc<strong>as</strong>ter, and on his Lent Term visit he<br />

agreed to give an interview to The Luminary. Rachel Holland and Chloe Buckley posed questions b<strong>as</strong>ed on<br />

<strong>issue</strong>s raised by his most recent book, The Event of Literature, published <strong>this</strong> year by Yale University Press. In<br />

The Event of Literature Eagleton attempts to develop a theory that can account for what we mean when we<br />

discuss texts in terms of them being literary – a question that, for him, w<strong>as</strong> left unsatisfactorily resolved with<br />

the decline of ‘high’ theory in the late 1980s. Eagleton suggests that the literary work operates in a paradoxical<br />

space between ‘structure’ and ‘event,’ wherein the structure is fixed and unchangeable, yet also dynamic in the<br />

sense that it must constantly respond to the challenges it creates for itself during the dialectical process in<br />

which it shapes an ever-present external reality for its own purposes. It is in the unpredictability, both of <strong>this</strong><br />

process and the fluctuations in reader response, that the ‘event’ of literature consists.<br />

RH: Your most recent book – The Event of Literature – is something of a return to a kind of ‘pure’ theory that<br />

might not be recognizable to many postgraduate researchers today. How would you respond to the suggestion<br />

that <strong>this</strong> change in direction involves a kind of de-politicizing of criticism? What prompted your return to the<br />

big questions of theory?<br />

TE: I’ve written somewhere that the history of theory goes hand in hand with the period when the left w<strong>as</strong><br />

briefly on the <strong>as</strong>cendency, so that in that whole period theory and politics were closely related. In that sense I<br />

don’t see a return to theory <strong>as</strong> depoliticizing, although it’s true that the questions I’m <strong>as</strong>king in the book, ‘what<br />

is literature?’ and so on, are not directly political, that’s for sure. I’m not <strong>as</strong>king particularly about the political<br />

effects or implications of literature, but I do think that theory itself, and an ability to think theoretically and<br />

generally abstractly, is actually quite important for radical politics. The political right on the whole is somewhat<br />

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