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Interview with Thomas A. Tombrello - Caltech Oral Histories

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<strong>Tombrello</strong>–264<br />

TOMBRELLO: One of the best—I’m going to give you the ones that make me look good,<br />

obviously, that’s the way things go—is about a company run by a <strong>Caltech</strong> professor, and he<br />

didn’t have a clue.<br />

ASPATURIAN: The name?<br />

TOMBRELLO: No. Yeah, it was Harvey Newman [professor of physics], come on. It was a<br />

beautiful little idea in teleconferencing. Very efficient teleconferencing. Developed <strong>with</strong> the<br />

taxpayers’ money for CERN. But Harvey is not a natural businessman. In fact, you might say<br />

he is an unnatural businessman. He started a small company based on this idea, and basically it<br />

created such a mess that there was a chance of a lawsuit <strong>with</strong> some of the other investors. Larry<br />

and Rich asked me what I would do. I said, “I know what you’re going to do. We’re going to<br />

give our stock away—all of it. We’re going to give it to some of the other people who’ve<br />

invested in the company—all of it, every bit of it.” They said, “Why?” I said, “If we don’t have<br />

any stock, we can’t be sued.” So it worked like a charm.<br />

Here’s another very interesting case. There was a patent on an asynchronous<br />

microprocessor from campus. It was being willfully violated by Intel Corporation. And we were<br />

told quite specifically by somebody at Intel that we wouldn’t dare touch them because it might<br />

bother Gordon Moore. We sort of accepted that argument. Rich said, “What are we going to<br />

do?” I said, “I know what I’m going to suggest. I want you to find a predatory firm who will<br />

buy that patent.” He says, “I assume you mean license the patent.” I said, “No. I don’t want to<br />

license. I want all my fingerprints off that patent. I want to sell that patent.” Rich did his<br />

homework and he found Nathan Myhrvold, who runs this company called Intellectual Ventures.<br />

Nathan was first chief scientist at Microsoft, and one day at lunch, up in Bellevue, Washington,<br />

Rich and I sold the patent for $600,000. Somebody said subsequently, “Well, what did he do<br />

about Intel?” I said, “I don’t want to know.” Whatever he did, that was Nathan’s thing. There<br />

was no way we could make money out of it, because we weren’t going to hold Intel’s feet to the<br />

fire. If Nathan did it, hey, that was Nathan. I don’t want to know about it. [Laughter] So there<br />

were some very interesting things where having a Sicilian heritage was not exactly—<br />

ASPATURIAN: A liability.<br />

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