Interview with Thomas A. Tombrello - Caltech Oral Histories
Interview with Thomas A. Tombrello - Caltech Oral Histories
Interview with Thomas A. Tombrello - Caltech Oral Histories
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<strong>Tombrello</strong>–225<br />
ASPATURIAN: And incredibly smart, dedicated people.<br />
TOMBRELLO: They had some great teams, and I believe what happened was they got off to a<br />
very bad start <strong>with</strong> the Mars Science Lab. And the first chief scientist of the Mars Science<br />
Laboratory [2005-07] was our very own Ed Stolper, who does not appreciate engineering and<br />
thinks you can buy it. I will tell you, in spacecraft, just like in high-energy physics and in<br />
cosmology, if you can buy it, you don’t want it. You want to develop something that’s new and<br />
better. I attribute a lot of the problems <strong>with</strong> the Mars Science Laboratory to its first chief<br />
scientist. I’ve told a lot of people that. That may not be fair, but it’s what I’ve said. In fact, my<br />
history of the Mars Science Laboratory was weird, because I first learned about it when I was off<br />
looking at a project for Schlumberger in Norway. For lunch they just threw in something extra,<br />
which was their proposal to be part of that mission. They showed it to me, and I said, “God, that<br />
is the weirdest, shakiest mission I’ve ever seen! Is that something ESA [European Space<br />
Agency] came up <strong>with</strong>?” They started laughing. They said, “No. It’s in your backyard. It’s<br />
from JPL. What do you think is wrong <strong>with</strong> it?” I said, “Look, it’s a very big, very expensive<br />
mission. And one of the things about big, expensive missions is you don’t have single-string<br />
failure modes. You have so much redundancy, because you’re paying for something that will<br />
work, no matter what, like Voyager. Now, Voyager had an absolute genius for a project<br />
scientist, Ed Stone. That is one of the best things that happened in the 20 th century in science.<br />
Fantastic thing; and Ed gets a huge credit for that.<br />
Let’s talk about him for a minute. I’ve known Ed Stone since he came here as a research<br />
fellow in cosmic-ray physics [1964]. One thing that was clear from early on was that Ed was an<br />
expert at detail. He could take something that other people had done in cosmic-ray physics and<br />
just make it better. It was taste, hard work, insight, whatever. At that time, Ed was a youngster<br />
at <strong>Caltech</strong>, and he was just chewing up the great people in the field, because his experiments<br />
worked that much better than theirs did. This runs through all the things he did—the balloon<br />
stuff, subsequently the ACE [Advanced Composition Explorer] mission, the Voyager mission.<br />
Harold Brown thought that the mission that became Voyager was in trouble. He threw Ed Stone<br />
[then an associate professor of physics] in there [1972]. It was a brilliant pick. Ed was, I think,<br />
what made Voyager such an extreme success—one of the great scientific achievements. It<br />
wasn’t <strong>with</strong>out troubles; constant troubles. It was out there working far longer than anybody had<br />
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