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RB: I think it’s very natural. Until very recently hip<br />
hop as a whole has been very stagnant it’s been<br />
in this bit of a drought I feel like and until just<br />
recently, younger artists are emerging and without<br />
even really meaning to are sort of bringing back<br />
this early 90s golden age of hip hop sound. The<br />
way that I see it is that it’s not even a conscious<br />
situation but it’s also very natural it’s like this wave<br />
– they go up, they go down.<br />
EL: WORD – yea a lot of people are like “I want to<br />
rap like the nineties I love the nineties, nineties this<br />
nineties that - ”<br />
SF: It’s not even about that.<br />
EL: I can’t tell you I make nineties music. I listen<br />
to Led Zeppelin, I listen to Anthony Santos I listen<br />
to Tribe Called Quest I listen to Lil Wayne I listen to<br />
Kanye College Graduate.<br />
SF: I listen to Chance the Rapper<br />
EL: I listen to Jay Z good music era y’all gonna -<br />
SF: Open Letter, all my niggers like 3 Hunna<br />
EL: I listen to GBE - you know!<br />
SF: Pretty Flocka<br />
EL: And some cats be like that’s not real hip hop<br />
SF: What you talkin bout! What is real hip hop?<br />
EL: I just like music I like all types of stuff.<br />
EL: Yo there was wack rappers in the 90s. There<br />
was a stagnant era in the 90s you know you had<br />
Biggie and Tupac but you also had Too $hort. You<br />
had all these other people that were sayin some<br />
bullshit too. Even Biggie, Biggie wasn’t sayin much<br />
of anything positive. You had Tribe Called Quest. On<br />
the west coast you had people rappin slow on the<br />
east coast you had people rappin fast down south<br />
you had people rappin, say com’on what’s real hip<br />
hop? People in New York are gonna say rap from<br />
New York in the 90s is real hip hop people in the<br />
south are like that shit is wack!<br />
past 30 years. Do you feel part of a cohesive Hip<br />
Hop Nation that is - as Afrika Bambaataa would say<br />
- “speaking truth to power?"<br />
SF: People can call it what they want. I’m not really<br />
for being against or rejecting another thing, I try to<br />
either understand it or overlook it. As far as being<br />
a part of a cohesive hip hop nation I’ll say hip hop<br />
is cool right now, very diverse, it’s a platform where<br />
everybody can be themselves. I just play my part in<br />
that.<br />
KC: Where do you situate yourself and the<br />
iLLUZION crew in relationship to the global hip<br />
hop diaspora? Can you talk about the evocation of<br />
style and guts in hip hop as a type of transnational,<br />
spiritual swag politicizing youth and raising<br />
consciousness worldwide?<br />
SF: Through hip hop? Yeah I mean that’s great. I’m<br />
working with a few artists right now in other countries.<br />
I think it’s dope to expand the connection - the<br />
consciousness - and everybody’s working together.<br />
As far as politics I don’t really include much of that in<br />
my hip hop. My music is all my artistic expression of<br />
truth. I don’t look to attack or limit the expression of<br />
the government or whatever might be behind it. That’s<br />
being spoken about by others. I stick to my task, which<br />
is just being the light.<br />
Somebody spiritual they’ll call it that, somebody<br />
not spiritual they’ll say “in the zone” or something<br />
but it’s this trance state where something does<br />
come over you, or go in through you. It happens to<br />
me all the time freestylin’ there’s a certain zone<br />
of comfort where the message and the words just<br />
seem to come out almost as if I’m watching it<br />
happen. It is a state of mind, a form of meditation.<br />
I’m sure it’s like the same vibe or frequency that<br />
people are getting into in African dance or it’s<br />
whatever some people call it. Sometimes I say it’s<br />
the vein, like getting in the vein – it's God flowing<br />
through you. It’s being able to let go of everything<br />
and just move – woosh! As far as lyrics and the<br />
creation process of the art and unraveling truth, it’s<br />
funny to watch. Writing or making something with<br />
such concentrated thought or energy, feeling that<br />
you’re creating that world manifesting from inside<br />
to out. I understand myself more going over the<br />
things I come up with because it’s more than me,<br />
when things are at their best. Because you<br />
know when you’re like looking for some inspiration<br />
or thoughts you’re digging, you’re digging from<br />
options, things from right there to pick from and<br />
then when you stop digging it’s just coming. It’s a<br />
spiritual experience - this is life - it’s always there<br />
that vibe it’s just if you’re present to it. God is<br />
always PRESENT<br />
KC: And how is illUZiON pushing the borders of the<br />
genre and carving out a new space in today’s hip<br />
hop?<br />
EL: It’s authentic, and we don’t even try. If I were to<br />
try I could make some 90s shit I could make some<br />
west coast shit I could make something trill. I could<br />
make some trap shit, I could make a trap album,<br />
what? Trap Supastar! But I don’t try to make “some<br />
shit” I Just do what im inspired to.<br />
SF: I don’t even like being narrowed in to only<br />
being looked at as a hip hop artist. A lot of rappers<br />
put themselves in that box and limit themselves.<br />
They become album after album, mix tape after<br />
mix tape, uh-uh son, niggas want to write plays!<br />
This is where we at right now, the foundation of<br />
where we started. We started out rapping well, we<br />
started applying thoughtful things about life to our<br />
ability to rhyme and now we gotta push it further.<br />
Rap is too easy now it’s not just about rapping or<br />
rhyming a word. So we not tryin to carve hip hop.<br />
Hip hop is what it is and we a part of it because<br />
we’re artists that emcee and we’re doing our best<br />
to become better artists and have that be a part<br />
of the influence and the identity of our culture,<br />
nauuughmean??<br />
KC: The Hip Hop Nation has been called a ‘couterrepublic’<br />
within the United States, it’s also been<br />
said that hip hop has been at the forefront of every<br />
youth social justice movement worldwide for the<br />
Salomon Faye, photo credit Dakota Blue Harper.<br />
KC: You do put messages in your work and that’s<br />
political, you just don’t talk about politics is what<br />
you’re saying?<br />
SF: Yeah<br />
KC: I like to think about hip hop in terms of earth<br />
and sky awareness. The drum beat is about our<br />
roots, breakdancing draws energy up from the<br />
earth through the feet. Hip Hop also links back to<br />
the practice of “possession dance” in Africa where<br />
to dance is to literally transcending human form<br />
and becoming one with source. I like to think of<br />
rappers, particularly the freestyle or the flow as a<br />
type of cosmic verbal divination. Salomon I noticed<br />
you dropping some pretty nu age bars, talking<br />
about the sun god, the sky, the third eye and<br />
rapping as your “divine purpose” or as you called it<br />
before “unraveling truth” – can you say more?<br />
SF: It’s about being so wrapped up in something<br />
you love that the force - that will power- it drives<br />
through you to where it is a spiritual experience.<br />
EL: You got to get lost in it, right? Even the first time<br />
I write a song you know you got everything you want<br />
to say and even at that you know I find out months<br />
later the shit that I wrote made so much sense…<br />
that shit just came out and now I listen and I’m like<br />
that shit so dope. You got to sing “If you wanna vibe<br />
with the rebel God Tribe” like 5,000 times and you<br />
almost forget what the song is about… I may have<br />
not even gotten it while creating it.<br />
SF: The message is not just hidden in the result<br />
but also the creation process. Yo, that shit is God’s<br />
language to me, art is just an analogy to be able<br />
to bring together how this higher consciousness<br />
that some people call universe, higher force, I call<br />
God - this is how it communicates - within and<br />
through, outside, around, what is. What isn’t. We<br />
understand what it is whenever we come to that<br />
point of understanding.<br />
KC: I’m interested in the significance of the party in<br />
hip hop and in your video. There is this apocalyptic