13.01.2014 Views

Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch

Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch

Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch

SHOW MORE
SHOW LESS

You also want an ePaper? Increase the reach of your titles

YUMPU automatically turns print PDFs into web optimized ePapers that Google loves.

the government <strong>to</strong> provide deposition testimony, the government<br />

moved him <strong>to</strong> Eastern District of Virginia … The post September 11<br />

context is drastically different. Before, the government takes an<br />

individual’s deposition, and releases him or her, unless required by trial.<br />

The government, in non-September 11 cases, had no reticence in taking<br />

a deposition. 255<br />

Material witness Ali Ahmed languished in jail for months while the government refused<br />

<strong>to</strong> take his deposition. His lawyer, Steve Swift, who had also represented several material<br />

witnesses before September 11, contrasted the government’s treatment of Ahmed with<br />

his other non-terrorism-related material witness clients:<br />

Ahmed dragged out more. No one wanted <strong>to</strong> take his deposition. There<br />

were rumors, thoughts, and suspicions about his involvement in<br />

terrorism. He never got a deposition—it was just dragged out.<br />

But before September 11 the government was quick <strong>to</strong> let go of those<br />

witnesses. Some of those were released real quick. They would appear at<br />

the courthouse for a deposition within two weeks of their arrest. 256<br />

Susan Ot<strong>to</strong>, who represented material witness Mujahid Menepta, also <strong>to</strong>ld HRW/ACLU<br />

the deposition alternative was not even on the table. A few days after Menepta was<br />

arrested, Ot<strong>to</strong> raised the possibility of a deposition <strong>to</strong> the Oklahoma-based federal<br />

prosecu<strong>to</strong>rs. But the “government made clear that it was not an option in this case.”<br />

According <strong>to</strong> Ot<strong>to</strong>, the U.S. at<strong>to</strong>rneys in New York called the shots and flatly refused <strong>to</strong><br />

depose Menepta. 257<br />

255<br />

HRW/ACLU telephone interview with Dan Sears, at<strong>to</strong>rney for material witness James Ujaama, Denver,<br />

Colorado, December 2003.<br />

256<br />

HRW/ACLU telephone interview with Stephen Swift, At<strong>to</strong>rney for Ali Ahmed, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, August 2,<br />

2004.<br />

257<br />

Interview with Susan Ot<strong>to</strong>.<br />

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH VOL. 17, NO. 2(G) 80

Hooray! Your file is uploaded and ready to be published.

Saved successfully!

Ooh no, something went wrong!