Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch
Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch
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the government <strong>to</strong> provide deposition testimony, the government<br />
moved him <strong>to</strong> Eastern District of Virginia … The post September 11<br />
context is drastically different. Before, the government takes an<br />
individual’s deposition, and releases him or her, unless required by trial.<br />
The government, in non-September 11 cases, had no reticence in taking<br />
a deposition. 255<br />
Material witness Ali Ahmed languished in jail for months while the government refused<br />
<strong>to</strong> take his deposition. His lawyer, Steve Swift, who had also represented several material<br />
witnesses before September 11, contrasted the government’s treatment of Ahmed with<br />
his other non-terrorism-related material witness clients:<br />
Ahmed dragged out more. No one wanted <strong>to</strong> take his deposition. There<br />
were rumors, thoughts, and suspicions about his involvement in<br />
terrorism. He never got a deposition—it was just dragged out.<br />
But before September 11 the government was quick <strong>to</strong> let go of those<br />
witnesses. Some of those were released real quick. They would appear at<br />
the courthouse for a deposition within two weeks of their arrest. 256<br />
Susan Ot<strong>to</strong>, who represented material witness Mujahid Menepta, also <strong>to</strong>ld HRW/ACLU<br />
the deposition alternative was not even on the table. A few days after Menepta was<br />
arrested, Ot<strong>to</strong> raised the possibility of a deposition <strong>to</strong> the Oklahoma-based federal<br />
prosecu<strong>to</strong>rs. But the “government made clear that it was not an option in this case.”<br />
According <strong>to</strong> Ot<strong>to</strong>, the U.S. at<strong>to</strong>rneys in New York called the shots and flatly refused <strong>to</strong><br />
depose Menepta. 257<br />
255<br />
HRW/ACLU telephone interview with Dan Sears, at<strong>to</strong>rney for material witness James Ujaama, Denver,<br />
Colorado, December 2003.<br />
256<br />
HRW/ACLU telephone interview with Stephen Swift, At<strong>to</strong>rney for Ali Ahmed, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, August 2,<br />
2004.<br />
257<br />
Interview with Susan Ot<strong>to</strong>.<br />
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