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Witness to Abuse - Human Rights Watch

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testimony—you get fingerprints, you get hair samples—so there’s all kinds of evidence<br />

you can get from a witness.” 47<br />

In an interview with HRW/ACLU, former chief U.S. At<strong>to</strong>rney for the Southern District<br />

of New York Mary Jo White, a key architect of the post-September 11 material witness<br />

policy, strongly defended the use of the material witness law <strong>to</strong> detain possible terrorist<br />

suspects. While pointing out that the United States does not have laws permitting<br />

detention of criminal suspects without charges, she noted that “the material witness<br />

statute gives the [U.S.] government effectively the same power … To the extent that it is<br />

a suspect involved in terror, you hold them on a material witness warrant, and you get<br />

the information until you find out what’s going on.” 48 According <strong>to</strong> White, holding<br />

someone as a material witness has given the government the time it needed “<strong>to</strong> get<br />

important information.” 49 She dismissed as simply not feasible the suggestion that the<br />

government could have conducted surveillance on the suspects <strong>to</strong> ensure they did not<br />

engage in criminal activity or abscond, while it continued <strong>to</strong> gather evidence about<br />

them. 50<br />

In enacting the material witness law, however, Congress did not authorize its use <strong>to</strong><br />

detain criminal suspects for whom probable cause is lacking. Rather, the law allows<br />

detention only <strong>to</strong> obtain the testimony of witnesses. As the Court of Appeals for the<br />

Second Circuit admonished in 2003: “[I]t would be improper for the government <strong>to</strong> use<br />

[the material witness law] for other ends, such as the detention of persons suspected of<br />

criminal activity for which probable cause has not yet been established.” 51 Yet that is<br />

exactly what the Department of Justice has done since September 11.<br />

47<br />

Steve Fainaru and Margot Williams, “Material <strong>Witness</strong> Law Has Many in Limbo,” Washing<strong>to</strong>n Post, Nov. 24,<br />

2002, p. A1.<br />

48<br />

HRW/ACLU interview with Mary Jo White, New York, New York, August 3, 2004 (Interview with Mary Jo<br />

White).<br />

49<br />

Ibid.<br />

50<br />

Former U.S. At<strong>to</strong>rney General Janet Reno also recently recognized the government’s practice of holding<br />

suspects as witnesses, stating that because of “the broad scope of grand jury investigations, [the government]<br />

can detain a suspected terrorist as a material witness before it has evidence sufficient <strong>to</strong> support a criminal<br />

arrest or indictment.” Brief of Janet Reno, et. al., Amici Curiae in Support of Respondents, Rumsfeld v. Padilla,<br />

No. 03-1027, April 12, 2004, p. 17-18. In the brief, Reno also noted that the government could detain material<br />

witnesses with “relative ease,” and the material witness law “can help prevent terrorist acts by incapacitating<br />

terrorists.” Ibid.<br />

51<br />

United States v. Awadallah, 349 F.3d 42, 59 (2d Cir. 2003). Congress makes clear that the purpose of<br />

detaining a witness is for securing her testimony by authorizing the detention of a material witness if “the<br />

testimony of a person is material in a criminal proceeding” and if “it may become impracticable <strong>to</strong> secure the<br />

presence of the person by subpoena.” 18 U.S.C. § 3144. Congress also indicates that the law is intended only<br />

<strong>to</strong> secure the witness’s testimony by requiring that a material witness generally should not be detained if the<br />

government can secure the witness’s testimony by deposition. Ibid. (“No material witness may be detained<br />

19 HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH VOL. 17, NO. 2(G)

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