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"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" - unam.

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way to understand ethical problems is to look historically at how they evolved and how<br />

they developed; the international lawyer suggested that the way to do it is to see how in<br />

fact people actually act in different situations and make their arrangements; the Jesuit<br />

priest was always referring to "the fragmentation of knowledge"; and I, as a scientist,<br />

proposed that we should isolate the problem in a way analogous to Galileo's techniques<br />

for experiments; and so on. "So, in my opinion," I said, "we had no dialogue at all.<br />

Instead, we had nothing but chaos!"<br />

Of course I was attacked, from all around. "Don't you think that order can come<br />

from chaos?"<br />

"Uh, well, as a general principle, or. . ." I didn't understand what to do with a<br />

question like "Can order come from chaos?" Yes, no, what of it?<br />

There were a lot of fools at that conference ­­ pompous fools ­­ and pompous<br />

fools drive me up the wall. Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to<br />

help them out. But pompous fools ­­ guys who are fools and are covering it all over and<br />

impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus ­­ THAT, I<br />

CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a<br />

dishonest fool is terrible! And that's what I got at the conference, a bunch of pompous<br />

fools, and I got very upset. I'm not going to get upset like that again, so I won't participate<br />

in interdisciplinary conferences any more.<br />

A footnote: While I was at the conference, I stayed at the Jewish Theological<br />

Seminary, where young rabbis ­­ I think they were Orthodox ­­ were studying. Since I<br />

have a Jewish background, I knew of some of the things they told me about the Talmud,<br />

but I had never seen the Talmud. It was very interesting. It's got big pages, and in a little<br />

square in the corner of the page is the original Talmud, and then in a sort of L­shaped<br />

margin, all around this square, are commentaries written by different people. The Talmud<br />

has evolved, and everything has been discussed again and again, all very carefully, in a<br />

medieval kind of reasoning. I think the commentaries were shut down around the<br />

thirteen­ or fourteen­ or fifteen­hundreds ­­ there hasn't been any modern commentary.<br />

The Talmud is a wonderful book, a great, big potpourri of things: trivial questions, and<br />

difficult questions ­­ for example, problems of teachers, and how to teach ­­ and then<br />

some trivia again, and so on. The students told me that the Talmud was never translated,<br />

something I thought was curious, since the book is so valuable.<br />

One day, two or three of the young rabbis came to me and said, "We realize that<br />

we can't study to be rabbis in the modern world without knowing something about<br />

science, so we'd like to ask you some questions."<br />

Of course there are thousands of places to find out about science, and Columbia<br />

University was right near there, but I wanted to know what kinds of questions they were<br />

interested in.<br />

They said, "Well, for instance, is electricity fire?"<br />

"No," I said, "but. . . what is the problem?"<br />

They said, "In the Talmud it says you're not supposed to make fire on a Saturday,<br />

so our question is, can we use electrical things on Saturdays?"<br />

I was shocked. They weren't interested in science at all! The only way science<br />

was influencing their lives was so they might be able to interpret better the Talmud! They<br />

weren't interested in the world outside, in natural phenomena; they were only interested<br />

in resolving some question brought up in the Talmud.

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