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NOTE: The following e‐mail message precedes Kevin’s last message in the string from May 26, 2010 at 1:18 pm From: Difuntorum, Randall Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Rule 1.5 I have revised my suggested redraft to clarify that true retainers and flat fees are not "exceptions" to the prohibition against nonrefundable fees. I also fixed some nits and added a new comment which explains the prohibition against a "nonrefundable" fee <strong>by</strong> citing Matthew v. <strong>State</strong> Bar. Changes are highlighted. ‐ Randy D. Attached: Rule 1 5 ‐ Dft12 1 (05‐26‐10) RD cf Dft11 (12‐14‐09).doc 86
Rule 1.5 – Public Comment – File List X-2010-402 Beverly Hills Bar Assoc [1.5e] 1 X-2010-403 Martin Martinez [1.5e] 6 X-2010-404 Frank Ragen [1.5e] 10 X-2010-407a Mark Borden [1.5e] 26 X-2010-407b Mark Borden [1.5e] 27 X-2010-408 Michael Perlis [1.5e] 31 X-2010-409 Kenneth G. Gordon [1.5e] 33 X-2010-412 Randolph Daar [1.5e] 36 X-2010-413 Joe Ingber [1.5e] 37 X-2010-415 Richard Moss [1.5e] 38 X-2010-419 Criminal Defense Lawyers Club SD [1.5e]` 42 X-2010-420 Barry Tarlow [1.5e] 44 X-2010-424 Multiple Signatures [1.5] 98 X-2010-425-7g SDCBA [1.5] 101 X-2010-426 LACBA [1.5e] 104 X-2010-428 Charles Sevilla [1.5e] 110 X-2010-429 Michael Pancer [1.5e] 113 X-2010-432 Nat'l Assoc. Crim. Def. Lawyers [1.5e] 114 X-2010-434 CACJ [1.5e] 117 87
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