Medicaid Managed Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

Medicaid Managed Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging Medicaid Managed Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

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59 But unless we get the choice and the consumer protections and the quality and the outcomes that are promised by managed care, then all you've got is another track for people with disabilities to go into and die and disappear. QUESTION. [Inaudible.] I was wondering what you hope to get out of today's meeting. Mr. YOUNG. We wanted to respond to a request from a friend on the Aging ong>Committeeong> and educate as many folks as we could about our concerns about managed care and to move the process along to a quality managed care system as quickly as possible. Ms. LEONARD. I know one of our thoughts was to clearly demonstrate the need for knowledge of each of the diseases. I think the common theme across the table is really knowing what it means to have Alzheimer's disease, what it means to have a mental illnessyour point about the individual with schizophrenia-and all the other illnesses that are profiled here. Probably the most frustrating thing-and I make it a point to continue being "in the trenches." I am a firm believer as a clinician and as someone who is very interested in public policy, that I need to eat, sleep and drink the realities of what happens in Washington and in Hartford-and part of my frustration and many of my colleagues is that many decisions are made without the knowledge of what it really means to have the disease. So if I may speak for myself and the association, it is to communicate to each and every one of you that there are people with special needs, and as Susan so eloquently stated, even within the special needs, there are special needs. QUESTION. [Inaudible] and in an effort to make [inaudible] to bring a great deal of attention to that. Ms. CHRISTENSEN. Laying the background for additional forums which will be more policy-oriented than this, describing who are we talking about. Mr. MINOR. I simply want to stress two words, and those are "outcomes" and "accountability." It is extremely important-even though I speak for people with AIDS and people with hemophilia, I also deal with almost 15 other inherited genetic disorders, and I can tell you very strongly that we have not educated people about outcomes monitoring, and it is a simple tool that lets you know that you are doing the right things with the best outcomes. I will make a statement quickly, that the new outcomes to, I think it is called H-E-D-I-S, HEDIS, I have real concerns with because it does not cover a lot of things that deal with catastrophic disease. If you are going to have an outcomes tool, it has got to be designed with that in mind, because if you don't know what the benefit is going to be, how do you know the plan? It is very simple-if you do not understand the outcomes of mental illness or Alzheimer's or cerebral palsy or whatever, when those things are not managed properly, then you have no concept of where the spending is. I emphasize that we look at tunnel vision, seeing that, hey, this is going to cost us "x" number of dollars today. An example is for hemophilia, if a patient with hemophilia does not get Factor on time, it is not just the fact that he did not get his medicine on time-he now has permanent joint destruction; he 44-098 97-3

60 now has to start looking at thing like radial synovectomies at $30 000, total joint replacement at $100,000. If you are a payer, an insurance group or an HMO, it baffles me why they do not understand-which would you rather pay, $1,200 for the Factor or $100,000 for a total joint replacement? Unfortunately, we are having difficulty getting people to see that simple little example, because they are too worried about what it's going to cost them today. Tennong>Careong> gives an HMO $1,260 to take care of somebody for a whole year. Folks, in 1 month, in July, I used $47,000 worth of medicine. Are you going to manage me with $1,260? Let me tell you-the reality is that my HIV doc gets paid $8 to see me. His answer to me is. Don, I'd rather take care of you free, because it costs me $150 to get the $8 reimbursed. Do you think they want to manage these States such as our for $8? Folks, it just can't be done. So I have to applaud-there are a lot of dedicated people out there who are taking care of a lot of these disease states, and they are not getting the credit because they weren't even asked for their input in the beginning. I emphasize what she said-we have got to be heard. We can't just sit at the table and say: Gee, whiz, we had somebody from Alzheimer's, and we had somebody here from cerebral palsy and mental health. You have got to hear what we're saying, because in the long run, the taxpayer is the loser, the Federal Government is the loser, the State government is the loser, and most important of all, the people we are trying to take care of are the losers. Ms. CHRISTENSEN. Anybody else? [No response.] Thank you all for coming. I want to point out that we have three more forums in this room. July 8, we're looking at the managed care industry and their ability to serve people with special needs. We'll have a representative from GAO and a researcher, and we're hoping to get somebody from an HMO. On July 15, we are going to look at quality and outcome measures; and on July 22, we'll have a panel discussing the State contracting process and the problems they face between contracting for ong>Medicaidong> managed care. Thank you all for coming. We really appreciate your attention. [Whereupon the forum was concluded.]

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now has to start looking at thing like radial synovectomies at<br />

$30 000, total joint replacement at $100,000.<br />

If you are a payer, an insurance group or an HMO, it baffles me<br />

why they do not understand-which would you rather pay, $1,200<br />

for the Factor or $100,000 for a total joint replacement? Unfortunately,<br />

we are having difficulty getting people to see that simple<br />

little example, because they are too worried about what it's going<br />

to cost them today.<br />

Tenn<str<strong>on</strong>g>Care</str<strong>on</strong>g> gives an HMO $1,260 to take care of somebody for a<br />

whole year. Folks, in 1 m<strong>on</strong>th, in July, I used $47,000 worth of<br />

medicine. Are you going to manage me with $1,260? Let me tell<br />

you-the reality is that my HIV doc gets paid $8 to see me. His<br />

answer to me is. D<strong>on</strong>, I'd rather take care of you free, because it<br />

costs me $150 to get the $8 reimbursed.<br />

Do you think they want to manage these States such as our for<br />

$8? Folks, it just can't be d<strong>on</strong>e. So I have to applaud-there are<br />

a lot of dedicated people out there who are taking care of a lot of<br />

these disease states, and they are not getting the credit because<br />

they weren't even asked for their input in the beginning.<br />

I emphasize what she said-we have got to be heard. We can't<br />

just sit at the table and say: Gee, whiz, we had somebody from Alzheimer's,<br />

and we had somebody here from cerebral palsy and mental<br />

health. You have got to hear what we're saying, because in the<br />

l<strong>on</strong>g run, the taxpayer is the loser, the Federal Government is the<br />

loser, the State government is the loser, and most important of all,<br />

the people we are trying to take care of are the losers.<br />

Ms. CHRISTENSEN. Anybody else? [No resp<strong>on</strong>se.]<br />

Thank you all for coming.<br />

I want to point out that we have three more forums in this room.<br />

July 8, we're looking at the managed care industry and their ability<br />

to serve people with special needs. We'll have a representative<br />

from GAO and a researcher, and we're hoping to get somebody<br />

from an HMO.<br />

On July 15, we are going to look at quality and outcome measures;<br />

and <strong>on</strong> July 22, we'll have a panel discussing the State c<strong>on</strong>tracting<br />

process and the problems they face between c<strong>on</strong>tracting for<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Medicaid</str<strong>on</strong>g> managed care.<br />

Thank you all for coming. We really appreciate your attenti<strong>on</strong>.<br />

[Whereup<strong>on</strong> the forum was c<strong>on</strong>cluded.]

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