Before Jerusalem Fell
by Kenneth L. Gentry by Kenneth L. Gentry
Ireruzeus, Bishop of Lpns 67 John could have suffered twice, under both Nero and Domitian. This certainly could account for Irenaeus’s confusion. (3) Also it should be remembered that Irenaeus was at Lyons when he wrote – quite far away from ecclesiastical tradition. Stuart comments in this regard: “I say this, with full recognition of the weight and value of Irenaeus’s testimony, as to ,any matters of fact with which he was acquainted, or as to the common tradition of the churches. But in view of what Origen has said. . . , how can we well suppose, that the opinion of Irenaeus, as recorded in Cont. Haeres, V. 30 was formed in any other way, than by his own interpretation of Rev. 1:9. “86 A careful scrutiny of the Irenaean evidence for a late date for Revelation tends to render any confident employment of him suspect. The difficulties with Irenaeus in this matter are many and varied, whether or not his witness is accepted as credible. A bold “thus saith Irenaeus,” cannot be conclusive of the matter. 86. Stuart, Apoca@pse 1:281.
5 CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA Titus Flavius Clemens (c. A.D. 150-215) was a presbyter in the church of Alexandria from about A.D. 189 until his death. He possessed an eclectic richness of information derived from broad reading, and he is known as the father of Alexandria Christian philosophy. 1 Clement of Alexandria almost universally is cited by late date advocates as supportive of their view. 2 The statement from Clement that is deemed useful is found in his Quis Saluus Diues (i.e., Who is th Rich Man that sAall be Saued?), Section 42. And to give you confidence, when you have thus truly repented, that there remains for you a trustworthy hope of salvation, hear a story that is no mere story, but a true account of John the apostle that has been handed down and preserved in memory. When after the death of the tyrant he removed fkom the island of’ Patmos to Ephesus, he used to journey by request to the neighboring districts of the Gentiles, in some places to appoint bishops, in others to regulate whole churches, in others to set among the clergy some one man, it may be, of those indicated by the Spirit. 3 The critical phrase here is “after the death of the tyrant he removed from the island of Patmos to Ephesus.” The Greek of that phrase is: 1. Philip Schaff, Histo~ of ths Christian Church, 8 vols. (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, [1910] 1950) 2:783. 2. See for example, R. H. Charles, T/u Rswlation of St. John, 2 VOIS. International Critical Commentary (Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1920), pp. xcii-xciii; Henry Barclay Swete, CornmsntaU on Rsvdation (Grand Rapids: Kregel, [1906] 1977), p. xcix; Donald Guthne, New T~tum-nt Introdudion, 3rd ed. (Downers Grove, IL: Inter-Varsity Press, 1970) , pp. 956-957. 3. G. W. Butterworth, Clement ofA/exandna (London: Heinemann, 1919), pp. 356tY 68
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5<br />
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA<br />
Titus Flavius Clemens (c. A.D. 150-215) was a presbyter in the<br />
church of Alexandria from about A.D. 189 until his death. He<br />
possessed an eclectic richness of information derived from broad<br />
reading, and he is known as the father of Alexandria Christian<br />
philosophy. 1 Clement of Alexandria almost universally is cited by<br />
late date advocates as supportive of their view. 2<br />
The statement from Clement that is deemed useful is found in<br />
his Quis Saluus Diues (i.e., Who is th Rich Man that sAall be Saued?),<br />
Section 42.<br />
And to give you confidence, when you have thus truly repented, that<br />
there remains for you a trustworthy hope of salvation, hear a story<br />
that is no mere story, but a true account of John the apostle that has<br />
been handed down and preserved in memory. When after the death<br />
of the tyrant he removed fkom the island of’ Patmos to Ephesus, he<br />
used to journey by request to the neighboring districts of the Gentiles,<br />
in some places to appoint bishops, in others to regulate whole churches,<br />
in others to set among the clergy some one man, it may be, of those<br />
indicated by the Spirit. 3<br />
The critical phrase here is “after the death of the tyrant he removed<br />
from the island of Patmos to Ephesus.” The Greek of that phrase is:<br />
1. Philip Schaff, Histo~ of ths Christian Church, 8 vols. (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans,<br />
[1910] 1950) 2:783.<br />
2. See for example, R. H. Charles, T/u Rswlation of St. John, 2 VOIS. International<br />
Critical Commentary (Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1920), pp. xcii-xciii; Henry Barclay<br />
Swete, CornmsntaU on Rsvdation (Grand Rapids: Kregel, [1906] 1977), p. xcix; Donald<br />
Guthne, New T~tum-nt Introdudion, 3rd ed. (Downers Grove, IL: Inter-Varsity Press,<br />
1970) , pp. 956-957.<br />
3. G. W. Butterworth, Clement ofA/exandna (London: Heinemann, 1919), pp. 356tY<br />
68
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