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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

our very belief that we need to abide in being, fixates attention<br />

away from the presence of being.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Yes, our imaginary Buddhas are really idols, and so<br />

are our imaginary selves, we think we are the constructs. But one<br />

of the things you were saying when you were talking about love<br />

and relationship, that in terms of working <strong>with</strong> it as a process, is<br />

you were describing in very simple terms the heart of practice in<br />

Buddhism, and which basically is that you maintain mindfulness<br />

of all situations. It's easy to stay mindful when everything is<br />

smooth and easy, and nobody's yelling at you. And then it's a little<br />

less easy when somebody's yelling at you and telling you what to<br />

do, and for some reason you have to listen to them.<br />

But the thing is what you do is you are, well okay, there are<br />

situations here, some I like and some I dislike, but they're there.<br />

But you find this simple center, which is by itself, serene.<br />

Now you also related another thing about the idea of the Self, and<br />

what I guess you're still influenced by Buddhism, the self is not a<br />

real thing, it's just another mask. And in some ways it is, the God<br />

image self that Jung talked about when he was talking about<br />

individuation. What's his name? James Hillman went out of his<br />

way to repudiate that the self was just merely a remnant of poly<br />

theism, we don't need them, we are all the Gods, and we don't<br />

have to be just one of them.<br />

But what I'm really getting about it is that when you're living<br />

naturally in all those extremes…<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> Now, right Now, is irrefutable. And the Now is the<br />

substratum of all, and Now is indivisible. Who can divide Now?<br />

BRIAN ADLER: I want to add something to what John just said.<br />

<strong>The</strong> beauty, no matter what life situation you find yourself in, the<br />

beauty of just being led to where John was just pointing here,<br />

<strong>with</strong>out any story, <strong>with</strong>out any theology, <strong>with</strong>out anything, it's<br />

kind of mysterious to me that we spend so much time talking<br />

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