Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
BRIAN ADLER: The context.
PAUL NAGY: Yes, it's just floating there. And if you go into that,
and just let it be, there's still a undesignated center that does stuff,
but it doesn't do things as “I” am doing it, in other words you lose
this identity. The identity is lost because it's part of the construct,
right? But the Self isn't lost because the Self is the entire whole.
BRIAN ADLER: You mean self, big S?
PAUL NAGY: Yes, it doesn't have to be big S, if you like big S
[Laughs]…
TRIP: So get to the point, Paul.
PAUL NAGY: That was the point.
TRIP: Okay, great. [Laughs]
BRIAN ADLER: Some people distinguish between ego and true
Self, I don't tend to. I don't think it's necessary to talk about Self.
It's much more interesting to me to talk about the discovery of
false beliefs than it is to replace them with true things.
WIZARD: I hear that, I hear that. That was an aspect of Ramana
Maharshi's teaching, he would just have you look at the belief of
the I-thought without filling in, so that what was revealed was
revealed directly without any window dressing on it. Right on.
BRIAN ADLER: Yes, then there's no limit on it. It's like it’s not
diminishing, it's actually that's how you fully appreciate it.
TRIP: Okay. You've become something of a master at something
that I would like to be more masterful at, so I want to ask you a
question. The Wizard here says that sexual intimacy is nothing
more than biology, a mere bodily function. Intellectually I agree
with him, but in reality I'm a serial monogamist, and my heart
becomes deeply bound to my beloved resulting in anguish every
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