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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

could let my love of connecting <strong>with</strong> people be just what it was,<br />

and it didn't have to be about selling them, that they needed<br />

something that I had, and if they paid me for it I could give it to<br />

them. Because not everyone does this, but there's this perception I<br />

think that goes on in the spiritual culture, what's the expression,<br />

people are trying to sell you your own wallet.<br />

WIZARD: Yes. <strong>The</strong>re are no models in this game; there are no<br />

models at all.<br />

TRIP: Now you're my new friend and you've confided some very<br />

personal stuff <strong>with</strong> me, do you have a problem <strong>with</strong> me talking<br />

about that?<br />

BRIAN ADLER: Oh, no, absolutely not.<br />

TRIP: Okay. You were busted for what at the time was one of<br />

largest drug busts in Chapel Hill history [Laughs].<br />

WIZARD: So that's what happened to my supply [Laughs].<br />

TRIP: No wonder we've been dry for so long. And they sent you to<br />

Butner Penitentiary for two years. While you were there you<br />

described yourself as happy, which surprised and confounded your<br />

fellow inmates. How is it that you remained happy when your<br />

freedom was taken away from you?<br />

BRIAN ADLER: It's a lot of what we were talking about <strong>with</strong> hope,<br />

and I think probably that was the first time in my life where I<br />

actually experienced what we're talking about. I was a relatively<br />

precocious, intelligent student at Carolina, and I had a lot of<br />

ambition for career, wealth, and what have you. And during the<br />

whole time that I was anticipating going to prison and then went<br />

to prison, there was a powerful sensation of all of that. I knew for<br />

sure that those things weren't going to be happening, at least not<br />

in the way that I'd imagined they would.<br />

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