Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
relationships where people begin to learn how to express
themselves from a place of oneness without getting stuck, and so
there's a greater effortlessness in the sharing that's taking place.
Even though, I can't quantify it and say there's a movement or
whatever, but there's effortlessness.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes.
TRIP: People are learning from other people and they're taking it
with them, and doing their thing.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: I would say that's your effortlessness for
listeners though. Like I would say as you encounter, like I can't
speak for you, so as I encounter people, what I notice is that as the
walls come down in me, and the walls come down in the way that I
used to be tentative, or I used to be hesitant, or I used to be
judgmental, so like I'm always seeing exactly what I am in that
way. So I don't know if it's actually happening in the other person,
like if I go and hang out with my dad, there's my dad, and he might
have some experience or not, but I don't see my dad anymore, or I
don't see my mum anymore, I see myself.
TRIP: So there's no trend, really there's only the capacity of an
individual to so-called see a trend, right?
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes. That was really well said.
TRIP: There can't actually be a trend.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Right. You're going to see exactly the
beliefs that you hold, and so when there aren't many beliefs left
then you see a world where seemingly it’s just you, or it's just
color, or it's just experience, or it's just light, or however you want
to try to talk about it.
ROBERT SALTZMAN: That's beautiful. The fewer beliefs you
have, the more you see things as they are, yes?
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