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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

the exact same feeling because it's just you feeling that. You can<br />

look around, you can see everyone, you can see yourself enjoying<br />

something like the theatre of sports, and absolutely everyone is<br />

already that thing, there doesn't have to be this like, I know I'm<br />

one, and you’re one. And that's a really nice feeling, but that's<br />

absolutely irrelevant, because you can go into any football stadium<br />

on earth, any soccer stadium on earth, any concert on earth.<br />

I went to a German concert when I was in Germany, I didn't<br />

understand the language at all, I just listened to the whole thing,<br />

and there was no difference than sitting here. So the idea<br />

sometimes of the image of what it looks like that is in some ways<br />

like, it's not a trap, but it just narrows down the experience. Yes,<br />

I'm having it, now I'm not, it's like it's always happening, you can<br />

go to the grocery store and just like look at the checker in a very<br />

normal way, and there it is, and there it is, and there it is. So it’s<br />

helpful because you can actually play <strong>with</strong> it, you can go to any<br />

event where seemingly people are not having that conversation,<br />

and you can see it. Because it's just life, I mean it's just, god, like<br />

you're on the airplane and the guy next to you is snoring, and the<br />

girl over there <strong>with</strong> her iPad, and the stewardess is like, I can't wait<br />

'til I get out of here. And it's all perfectly life just happening. I<br />

love the idea that you can go to a stadium full of sport fans and feel<br />

the exact same feeling, seemingly the furthest thing from a<br />

conversation about nonduality, but it's the same thing because<br />

nonduality is always the case, regardless of what we say.<br />

TRIP: It does seem that this conversation [Laughs]; Benjamin's<br />

contagious maniacal laughter is taking place over here. Are you<br />

okay?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Oh, yeah.<br />

TRIP: Well, you're crying.<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: It's just so beautiful, it takes over, and it is<br />

like so beautiful.<br />

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