Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
clear to me that what I was seeing in Benjamin, I was sensing this
gentleness or something that I wanted, and there's this moment
where it came really clear to me that what we're seeing was that,
itself. And that for me has been the blessing of just interacting
with him, is that for whatever reason, whatever it is I'm seeing in
him that I want, it's like I'm recognizing that it’s only that… that
can see it. So you look at him, you see that playfulness; it's that
playfulness in you that is seen, there's only that.
TRIP: Yes. Thank you. High five, thank you. [Laughs]
ROBERT SALTZMAN: That was very beautiful what you just said.
this program has a lot of nonduality fans listening to it, and that's
a very good statement of nonduality, there's only one thing, it's not
like you have one thing, and Benjamin has another, it's just the
one thing, we all have it.
FEMALE VOICE: Yes, and it's just great.
ROBERT SALTZMAN: When we feel it it's wonderful, it feels like
coming home. It feels like you were always home, and you just
realized it.
FEMALE VOICE: When you were saying that, and I was filming
you, so you can watch it later, you were so beautiful, like physically
just like an angel, beautiful. So we can post that on your Facebook
page. [Laughing]
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: You have to know it to recognize it; you
have to have it to recognize it. That's always the good news, like
whatever somebody thinks they want, whatever image I have of
the spiritual teacher of the one who is the way I really want to be,
the fact that I can see that means I already have that. It's like,
that's the only way it works, and it's always good news when
someone feels themselves projecting strongly onto another person,
there's that sense of, oh, I'm just projecting outwards what I won't
let myself yet be, or I won't fully embody yet. And it is okay, it's
okay to use the guru that's that way, it is okay to do all of that, as
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