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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

fundamental feeling is that I trust every single person who's<br />

listening to know for themselves how best to achieve that, or<br />

experience that. That's actually the only thing I can offer them,<br />

and that's why I stand here <strong>with</strong> the You're Perfect sign, it's<br />

literally just like reminding people that absolutely they can trust<br />

their own sense of joy, and their own experience, and what they<br />

want to do, and I don't have a formula for anyone. You can watch<br />

me, but what I do might not work for you, and vice versa.<br />

But it's just the encouragement, like it is okay to play. I might not<br />

play <strong>with</strong> you, but that's okay to play, too. It's okay to enjoy life, it<br />

is okay to relax. Sometimes I sit up on campus, at Berkeley<br />

campus, and the students are walking by, and it's so fun to just<br />

say, hey, it's okay to relax, and to watch them go, uh! Just their<br />

whole body goes, oh my god, really, is it okay? No, I can't, I got a<br />

paper due, and I can't relax. It's just sometimes reminding each<br />

other, like it is okay, it's OK to relax, and it’s okay to have fun.<br />

You're going to die [Laughs]. I mean, that's probably debatable in<br />

some realms philosophically, but for the most part it's a useful<br />

thing to know, oh, I'm going to die, okay. It's not that serious.<br />

TRIP: Well you're listening to <strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-Garde<br />

<strong>Sages</strong>, and our special guest today is Benjamin Smythe, he's an<br />

avant-<strong>garde</strong> sage visiting from Berkeley. He's got a very<br />

unorthodox way of sharing, he takes a little sign around and sees<br />

what happens, and stays in the moment, and has no agenda, has<br />

no particular message he wants to share, he's just hanging out in<br />

the present, and playful, right?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes. I don't know I might have an agenda<br />

any second now; I have no idea [Laughs].<br />

TRIP: He's ultimately not able to pin down. You can't pin the<br />

man down.<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: I don't know the future.<br />

WIZARD: Maybe there's nobody to pin down.<br />

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