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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

the expression in his face, you can tell that he doesn't know<br />

whether he's chewing on dog poop, cherry pie, or what, . And it<br />

takes about a good three or four seconds of chewing before the<br />

qualities of sweetness and cheeriness, get conceptualized, and he's<br />

able to break into a smile and go, umm, like that. That's what Ithought<br />

about when I read your teaching where you say in<br />

recognizing awareness, the tendency to identify exclusively <strong>with</strong><br />

mental labels relaxes. We experience the warmth of the sun<br />

directly rather than through the label it's a nice day. I mean, we all<br />

go around all day long, how are you, nice day, we don't actually,<br />

right?<br />

SCOTT KILOBY: Yes, I think that part of that is a like being aware<br />

of the sensory and emotional experience more fully in our<br />

experience instead of always collapsing it straight down into a<br />

concept. Although the concepts are fine too, it's fine to say it's a<br />

nice day, I just think that my tendency was always to live so much<br />

in the labels that I forgot that part of the nice day is literally the<br />

sun beating down on my skin and the warmth, the raw sensation<br />

of that. <strong>The</strong>re's so much to our experience that's so full that when<br />

we collapse everything down and just stay only in the viewpoints<br />

we kind of, it feels like we miss out on part of our experience, the<br />

fullness of our experience.<br />

WIZARD: That ego wants to be a narrator.<br />

SCOTT KILOBY: Yes.<br />

TRIP: You give a lot of stuff away on that website for free, Scott,<br />

thank you for very much.<br />

SCOTT KILOBY: No, you're welcome, that's great, yes.<br />

TRIP: Let me see here. I like to make sure I get through all of the<br />

things that really blew me away before I just get…<br />

WIZARD: You usually have a tough question. [Laughter]<br />

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